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zudomiriku 21-09-2015 02:13 PM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
Southampton 2-3 Manchester United PLAYER RATINGS: David de Gea stars with series of crucial saves as Red Devils edge Saints to soar second in Premier League

* Manchester United edged Southampton 3-2 at St Mary's on Sunday
* Teenage striker Anthony Martial impressed with two well taken goals
* Goalkeeper David De Gea made a string of crucial saves for United
* Southampton forward Graziano Pelle caught the eye with his own brace
* Maya Yoshida and Jose Fonte struggled in the Saints defence

Southampton (4-2-3-1)

Maartan Stekelenburg 6

Little he could do about both Martial strikes who twice rolled the ball past him or the third when he was pulled to the left of goal to try to keep out Depay's shot which hit the post, allowing Mata an open net to finish.

Maya Yoshida 4.5

Unfortunate that his perfectly-time tackle on Mata rolled straight to Martial to then score, but the second was entirely his fault as a shocking back-pass went straight to the Manchester United forward to add a second.

Jose Fonte 5.5

Terrible defending to allow Schneiderlin's header to run into the box which allowed Mata in on goal and led to Manchester United's opener. Unfortunate his near-post header in the second-half did not earn an equaliser. Booked for a foul on Martial.

Virgil van Dijk 5.5

Embarrassed by Martial as he was completely fooled by the Manchester United forward's turn before he fired in the equaliser. Booked for hauling Martial down as he broke away.

Matt Targett 6

Appeared to pick up an injury right at the end of the first-half and was substituted at the break. Kept Mata quiet when he started out on the right.

Oriol Romeu 6

Managed to avoid picking up a booking, which is quite unlike Romeu since he signed from Chelsea. Substituted early in the second-half with Southampton needing to take a more attacking approach.

Victor Wanyama 6

Was controlling the centre of midfield for Southampton for the first half-hour, until United scored their surprise equaliser, and almost scored at the death with a rasper from the edge of the box.

James Ward-Prowse 6

His deliveries into the box from right and centre caused United difficulties at the back. Could perhaps have got more into the game.

Dusan Tadic 6

Tricky on the left flank, getting into spaces and getting crosses into the box. However, he went quiet in the second-half when Southampton needed him to get them back into the match.

Sadio Mane 6

His volley, latching on to Ward-Prowse's cross, set up the first goal when it was saved by De Gea, allowing Pelle to place at the second attempt.

Graziano Pelle 7.5

Great follow-up to score the opener on the rebound, then hit the post moments later after a lovely 180 degree turn on the edge of the box. His second goal from a header to make it 3-2 gave Southampton hope at the end.


Cuco Martina 6 (on for Targett 46)

It looked like the change was enforced due to an injury to Targett late in the first-half.

Steve Davis 6 (on for Romeu 56)

On the pitch to provide more of an attacking edge, but failed to turn the tide agains this side.

Shane Long 6 (on for Ward-Prowse 76)

Put in a usual bustling, nippy display as the game headed towards its climax, but was on too late to make a difference.

Subs not used: K Davis, CÚdric, Rodriguez, Juanmi

Manager: Ronald Koeman 5

Seemed to have got this so right as his side dominated the first 30 minutes, but they fell apart when United levelled against the run of play.

Manchester United (4-2-3-1)

David de Gea 8

Incredible save at point-blank range to deny Mane the first, but was powerless to stop Pelle putting in the rebound.

Then made another, even better, to keep out Fonte's header, which would've levelled, and a third to keep out Wanyama's effort in stoppage time was up there too. Earned his side all three points.

United goalkeeper David de Gea made a series of crucial saves late on to help his side to a narrow victory

Matteo Darmian 5.5

Given one of the tougher tests of the bright start to his Manchester United career by the skilful Tadic and hooked at half-time.

Chris Smalling 6.5

The main calming influence on a particularly erratic first-half United defence.

Daley Blind 5

Identified as a weak link by Koeman before the match and proved as much. Too easily bossed by Pelle, too slow to deal with Mane.

Marcos Rojo 6

First start since Copa America final, and his lack of first-team football this season did not show. Taken off for the remaining 20 minutes, lacking match fitness.

Michael Carrick 6

Did not, perhaps, have as big an influence on the game as he would've wished, given the chance to start in United's central midfield which Louis Van Gaal likes to rotate.

Morgan Schneiderlin 6

The Southampton fans gave no reaction whatsoever to his return to St Mary's for the first time and he barely put a foot wrong. His long header into the box started the move for their first goal.

Juan Mata 7.5

Ineffectual starting out wide right, but as soon as he was moved into a central position made a difference. Helped make United's first and got the third with a rebound.

Wayne Rooney 6

Looked off-the-pace in the first-half and lacking match sharpness, after time out injured. His passing was better int he second 45.

Memphis Depay 7.5

Outshone out on the left by fellow new signing Martial, but a constant outlet for his side and his turn before hitting the post, for Mata to score the third, was world class.

Anthony Martial 8.5

Demonstrated calm and composure to turn van Dijk before slotting in the leveller for a goal out of nowhere. The 19-year-old is showing no signs of struggling with his huge price-tag.

Martial scores United's first goal to draw them level at 1-1 with Southampton on Sunday


Antonio Valencia 6 (on for Darmian 46)

Better performance than the man he replaced, added a dimension over-lapping on the wing to help United finish the match off.

Bastian Schweinsteiger 6 (on for Carrick 60)

Provided a screen for the final 30 minutes with United starting to command the midfield.

Paddy McNair 6 (on for Rojo 69)

Possibly better going forward when he came on than he was in defence, a surging run down the flank to win a corner a particular highlight.

Subs not used: Romero, Young, Herrera, Fellaini

Manager: Louis van Gaal 7.5

Changed things around tactically when they were not working at the start and the full might of his expensively-assembled side did the job.



tumpal_oneunited 21-09-2015 02:34 PM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
Versi daily, rating Martial lebih tinggi dibanding pelle yang sama-sama menyumbang 2 gol.
Versi FPL nya, yang dapet bonus 3 malah pelle, Martial cuma dapet bonus 2. :D

theater of dream 21-09-2015 03:19 PM

Emang no 10 main ya tadi malam ?
Posisi apa ?

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Haji Paidin 22-09-2015 12:14 AM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
Skema serangan Soton sebenarnya sangat terbaca. Serang dari sisi yang ada Daley Blind, maka United akan kelimpungan. Dua gol Soton semuanya berasal dari posisi Blind. Entah karena udah berasa nggak ada lawan atau ada janji pribadi Sang Meneer buat kasih satu slot tim utama (semoga salah dua duanya) mainnya Blind jadi bener bener buta. Jadi bek tengah lembek, jadi bek kiri lembek juga
Selain Blind,, sosok Rooney juga jadi sorotan, kemana nih Sang Kapten sepanjang 90 menit..?? apakah statusnya yang kapten membuatnya jadi untouchable..?? Ada pundit yang bilang fungsi Rooney adalah untuk menarik bek lawan keluar..?? apanya yang menarik bek keluar..?? lha wong ngasih efek serangan juga enggak, hanya gol ketiga yang dibangun dari skema serangan, dua gol sebelumnya ada faktor luck dan skill Martial.
Memphis juga perlu dicermati. Sampai sekarang masih jauh dari harapan. Memang beberapa kali sempat membuat tusukan, satu diantaranya jadi gol lewat rebound. tapi ya cuma itu.
Catatan lain dari pertandingan semalam adalah Double Pivot Carrick-Morgan nggak cocok main bareng. pilihannya antara Morgan-Basti atau Carrick-Basti, atau Carrick-Hererra/Morgan-Hererra.
Mata, seperti biasa, stabil, bakal jadi Mr Consistent kedua rupanya
soal Martial dan Kang Dadang sih sudah terwakili sama yang lain

alfiandrmwn 22-09-2015 12:29 AM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
Dikalahkan MU, Ronald Koeman Semprot Pemain Southampton

Bola.net - Pelatih Southampton, Ronald Koeman mengecam performa buruk anak asuhnya saat dikalahkan Manchester United 2-3 akhir pekan lalu.

Pada laga tersebut, Southampton mampu mengawali pertandingan dengan baik dan menciptakan peluang. Namun Manchester United mampu memaksimalkan lemahnya pertahanan Soton dan mencetak gol kemenangan.

"Saya tak suka pemain saya, secara umum, bukan mengkritik Maya Yoshida yang membuat kesalahan atas gol Martial. Saya benci pemain yang mengumpankan bola kembali ke kiper," ujarnya.

"Memainkan bola di ruang yang ada di depan sehingga anda bisa memberi lawan tekanan. Kami melihat kelemahan Manchester United hari ini adalah pertahanan. Setiap hari kami memberitahu para pemain untuk mainkan bola di depan dan jangan mengembalikan bola ke kiper," tegasnya.

"Saya akan memberi tahu hal yang sama pada pemain karena ini selalu beresiko, Kami harus belajar dari itu karena kami membuat kesalahan musim lalu dan kami juga berbuat kesalahan lagi hari ini," tutupnya.

alfiandrmwn 22-09-2015 12:40 AM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
Koeman: Southampton Kalah Bukan Karena MU Berkualitas

Bola.net - Ronald Koeman berkeras Southampton hanya bisa menyalahkan diri mereka sendiri usai kalah dari Manchester United.

Graziano Pelle sempat membuat tuan rumah unggul, namun Anthony Martial mencetak dua gol sebelum Juan Mata mencetak gol ketiga United, dan Pelle kemudian melengkapi brace-nya sebelum laga berakhir.

Koeman percaya bahwa kekalahan timnya di St Mart diakibatkan oleh beberapa kesalahan yang tidak perlu, bukan kualitas United.

Ia mengatakan pada Sky Sports: "30 menit pertama kami bermain sempurna, kami bermain amat terorganisir dan mereka kesulitan membongkar pertahanan kami. Kami sempat salah di 10 menit akhir babak pertama. Di babak kedua, Anda melakukan kesalahan yang buruk.

"Kami bisa memainkan sepakbola yang bagus ketika kami percaya. Membuat kesalahan merupakan bagian dari permainan, namun kami harus melupakannya. Kami masih jadi tim yang kuat."

alfiandrmwn 22-09-2015 05:30 AM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United

adi_Giggsy 22-09-2015 03:04 PM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United
kalau dari segi organisasi permainan memang soton lebih unggul, dari ball possesion United lebih unggul. Dan satu lagi keberuntungan, nah disini United lebih unggul. Semoga saja kedepannya luck berpihak sama United.

stamansa 23-09-2015 11:03 AM

Re: [EPL] Southampton 2 v 3 Manchester United

Originally Posted by troy andreas (Post 621131)
Memang Koeman beberapa hari lalu sudah terang- terangan akan eksplore posisi Daley Blind dengan Pelle sebagai juru gedornya dan itu berhasil. Gol pertama terjadi karena Blind kalah sprint kemudian lepas kontrol penjagaan ke Pelle, gol kedua karena ga berhasil tutup crossing lawan. Carrick & Schneiderlin memang sering cover Blind utk tutup pergerakan Pelle, namun apa daya kalau soal duel Blind masih kalah.


Soal pembiasaan rotasi sangat setuju, skuad juga ga gemuk amat. Cuma punya 3 striker, jangankan main si Willson duduk di bench saja tidak pernah. Apa kabar dengan Perreira yang bagus di pre-season juga Lingard yang bisa jadi winger. Saat Jones sudah fit, boleh-lah dia ikut dimainkan krn IMO lawan sepadan Pelle semalam itu Jones & Smalling.

Blind adalah tipe pemain yg suka bongkar pertahanan, tapi buruk saat meladeni pemain yg mirip dia.
LvG terlalu takut dan tak mau mengambil resiko memainkan pemain seperti Perreira ataupun Lingard. Sudahlah Perreira, tapi Lingard yg sudah malang melintang di Inggris dan sudah membuktikan kalau dia mampu semasa di DC. Mungkin nanti malam akan jadi kesempatan bagi mereka sekaligus mengistirahatkan pemain-pemain yg main terus seperti Mata, Blind, dan Depay

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