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16-10-2012, 02:51 PM | #1 |
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Manchester City Considered Merging With Manutd In 1964
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Revealed: How Manchester City considered merging with United in 1964 Only a very brave madman would suggest it these days – and even he would think twice about it. But back in the Sixties, United and City sat around a table to think about the unthinkable, and discuss the disgusting – a merger between the two clubs. The story of the moment when the Blues’ vice-chairman Frank Johnson mooted the idea of the two clubs becoming one is told in the excellent new history of City, written by football historian Gary James. The idea, which popped into Johnson’s head in 1964, was given short shrift by United, and was fiercely opposed by others at City – but it was discussed more than once by the two clubs. With hindsight, such a move seems incredible but the early 60s were very different – indeed, James sees that period as perhaps the lowest point in City’s history, even eclipsing the dive into English football’s third division, in the late 90s. And relations between the two clubs were also quite different. They were rivals on the field, but off it, everything was amicable. There was plenty of goodwill around from the fact that City had allowed United to use their Maine Road ground as Old Trafford was being re-built following its World War Two bombing. City had also let United use their floodlit stadium for European games in the mid- Fifties, before the Reds got their own. But they were still two clubs with proud histories, and whose supporters – while lacking the hatred which crept into some fans in later years – were fiercely independent of each other. The merger was never likely to happen, and perhaps the main significance of its proposal was to illustrate the dark moments City were going through at that time – and make all the more brilliant the revival under Joe Mercer and Malcolm Allison. Between the two world wars, City had been the glamour club, while United had struggled both financially and on the pitch, before the appointment of ex-Blues star Matt Busby as manager had revived their fortunes. They had struggled in the immediate aftermath of the 1958 Munich air disaster but by 1964 Busby had built a new team which was heading for the league title, and a merger would have done nothing for them. “The idea was killed by both clubs before it ever became public,” said James. “I spoke to Eric Alexander whose dad Albert was chairman at the time, and he said Frank Johnson, who came up with the idea, often came up with crazy ideas. “Another of his plans was to make the entire league regionalised into north and south. “But City [under then manager George Poyser] were at a real low in their history at the time. In terms of league position, it wasn’t as bad as 1998-99, but in terms of general morale, atmosphere and support it was by far the lowest point in the club’s history. “In the late Nineties, we still had over 30,000 going to games, and that meant the club still had a high profile. In 1964-65 we were in the second division, support had dropped to a low of less than 15,000, and general interest in the club had also dropped. “I always believed in the Nineties that City would come back, because of the strength of the support, but in those days in the Sixties a lot of people didn’t feel that way. “At that time, a lot of the ‘town’ clubs like Bolton, Burnley and Blackpool, who had all been major powers, began to struggle, and clubs like Accrington Stanley and Bradford Park Avenue were dying. There was a feeling that this could happen to any club. In fact, all it needed at City was a plan and a vision, and to bring in the right manager.” Of course, that is exactly what happened. Mercer was appointed, he brought in Allison and their dynamic partnership saw City promoted and lifting the league title within three seasons, before going on to win the FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup Winners’ Cup. The appointment of Mercer was not widely hailed at the time, said James. “When they brought Joe in, he had suffered a stroke while he was Aston Villa manager, and had been sacked by them. It was a major gamble that could easily have backfired, and I sometimes wonder where the club might have been had that happened. “Bringing in Allison was a major catalyst, but the whole episode just shows that when things look bad for any club, it sometimes just needs a bit of faith and patience.” James originally penned Manchester: The Greatest City, a definitive history of the Blues, but he decided to bring out a fresh, revised and updated history of the club in the wake of the 2008 takeover which transformed the fortunes of the club. Like many City fans, James is irritated by the mutterings of fools who talk about City having ‘no history’, when in fact theirs is a story rich in glory as well as failure, populated by great characters, and illuminated by beautiful moments. But while he was writing the new history, Manchester: The City Years, the Blues provided him with the happy ending which his previous tome had lacked. “When I started writing it, we hadn’t won the FA Cup and the Premier League, so the book could have ended without success, but what unfolded meant I had a nice finish,” he said. “I like my books to be as up to date as possible, so I even started to write a chapter about Euro 2012, and the Olympic Games – I suddenly thought ‘What am I doing?’ In previous books I had been desperate for positive stories, and now I had been given the perfect ending" http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...united-in-1964 Sent from my GT-I8150 using Tapatalk 2
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16-10-2012, 02:54 PM | #2 |
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Re: Manchester City Considered Merging With Manutd In 1964
Kmrn dah di post Oom Andi tuh di sebelah ....
Ini dah kayak solusi mengatasi tawuran pelajar yaa ..., dimerger gitu |
16-10-2012, 02:58 PM | #3 |
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United kacau secara financial dibanding City pasca perang Dunia kedua, walaupun rival tapi United sempat juga memakain fasilitas milik Mancity saat Old Trafford di.renovasi akibat kena bom..
Ps : opa @rondwisan, kalo udah ada merge aja trit nya hehe maklum via hape Sent from my GT-I8150 using Tapatalk 2
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16-10-2012, 03:07 PM | #4 |
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Woles Bro ..., ntar'an yaa, ini juga pake hape sih ....
_______________________ United dan City Nyaris Merger pada 1960-an RP27 | Seorang pakar sejarah sepak bola Inggris, Gary James, menungkap sebuah fakta menarik terkait Manchester United dan Manchester City. James menyebut United dan City nyaris melakukan merger di era 1960-an. Gary James menyatakan ide penggabungan dua klub asal Manchester itu dilontarkan oleh Chairman The Citizens, Frank Johnson, pada 1964. Saat itu, kedua rival sekota tersebut masih berhubungan baik dan City sedang mengalami masa-masa kelam. City bahkan meminjamkan Stadion Main Road sebagai markas sementara United kala Old Trafford sedang direnovasi setelah mengalami kerusakan selama Perang Dunia Dua. Namun, setelah Setan Merah mampu bersaing memperebutkan titel liga usai tragedi Muenchen 1958, maka opsi penggabungan tersebut dibatalkan. "Saya diberitahu oleh Albert Alexander, anak chairman United saat itu, Eric, bahwa chairman City, Frank Johnson, mengusulkan ide penggabungan kedua tim. City saat itu sedang terpuruk, dari prestasi di lapangan hingga merembet ke moral tim secara keseluruhan, termasuk menurunnya dukungan suporter," kata James kepada Daily Mail. "Johnson juga mengusulkan agar Liga Inggris di bagi menjadi dua wilayah, yaitu utara dan selatan. Namun, Usulan tersebut dimentahkan kedua belah pihak sebelum diumumkan ke publik," pungkas James. © BOLANEWS |
21-11-2012, 10:48 AM | #5 |
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Re: Manchester City Considered Merging With Manutd In 1964
wah klo segitu banyak pada tawur bisa heboh banget tuh ya...
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21-11-2012, 07:58 PM | #6 |
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merger 3:-) akan kah ada merger di indonesia
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22-11-2012, 01:36 PM | #7 |
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Re: Manchester City Considered Merging With Manutd In 1964
liga2 nya tu perlu di merger biar g banyak versi...bikin bingung
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