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Old 25-12-2009, 07:20 PM   #41
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Hal yg perlu jd perhatian tp ga di bahas:
1. Tabiat pemain di luar lapangan, ini penting dan sgt berpengaruh bagi permainan si pemain itu sendiri,disni messi unggul jauh....
2. Loyalitas,loyalitas dan dedikasi pemain pd tim jg penting,krna kl pemain kepala nya ud tepengaruh nilai kontrak ud pasti ga konsen,hehhhehe....
3. Dayah hindar dari cedera,messi blm prnh absen dlm jangka waktu lama,...beda dgn ronaldo yg rentan cedera...
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kalo u/ penilaian pemilihan Pemain Terbaik kyknya ketiga kategori tsb gak masuk hitungan deh kecuali mungkin tabiat bisa aja menjadi pertimbangan. emang kalo kyk CR dia baru pindah ke Madrid trus dia masih bisa cetak gol 40an masa gak boleh terpilih krn dia kurang loyal? kalo rentan cedera mah itu secara gak langsung akan mempengaruhi jumlah penampilan, gol, assist. jadi bagi gw ketiga poin tsb cuma "poin pertimbangan" aja yg gak penting
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Old 26-12-2009, 09:55 AM   #42
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kalo u/ penilaian pemilihan Pemain Terbaik kyknya ketiga kategori tsb gak masuk hitungan deh kecuali mungkin tabiat bisa aja menjadi pertimbangan. emang kalo kyk CR dia baru pindah ke Madrid trus dia masih bisa cetak gol 40an masa gak boleh terpilih krn dia kurang loyal? kalo rentan cedera mah itu secara gak langsung akan mempengaruhi jumlah penampilan, gol, assist. jadi bagi gw ketiga poin tsb cuma "poin pertimbangan" aja yg gak penting
Kan udh dibilang utk jd perhatian,krna memang hal2 tsb diluar tehnis permainan,tp berpengaruh jg pd permainan si pemain....
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curiga neh elphicici diambil messi ...messi dhe kayaknya the best.

sorry baru nyimak....
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Old 31-12-2009, 07:18 AM   #44
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CR9 rentan cedera justru setelah bergabung dengan Real Madrid ...... dulu jaman masih di Old Trafford jarang sekali dia terkena cedera ..... CMIIW
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almost equal but the better one is RONALDO!!!

he can do anything, a complete player!! Messi besar karena Barcelona aja, teammate-nya bagus2 semua...Ronaldo baru 1 musim di madrid udah ngasih influence yang besar, bahkan nama sebesar Kaka bisa tenggelam dibawah Ronaldo
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almost equal but the better one is RONALDO!!!

he can do anything, a complete player!! Messi besar karena Barcelona aja, teammate-nya bagus2 semua...Ronaldo baru 1 musim di madrid udah ngasih influence yang besar, bahkan nama sebesar Kaka bisa tenggelam dibawah Ronaldo
emang Ronaldo teammates nya ga bagus apa?
justru teammates ronaldo jauh lbh bagus dan mahal2 bro...
bayangin ronaldo tanpa kaka, alonso, benzema and teman2 galacticosnya.
atau lbh gampangnya liat ronaldo di portugal...brp kali maen dan brp kl yg bagus?
Kaka tenggelam sejak masih di Milan...dia udah menurun di musim terakhirnya.


Messi kalah di body and speed serta maen2 bola ala ronaldinho.
Messi unggul di passing, pergerakan tanpa bola.

Gampangnya...
Ronaldo is a great player.
Messi is a great team-mate.
Kalo lu jd pemain pgn nyetak banyak goal, lu maen bareng Messi...
Kalo lu jd pemain demen supply bola/assist, lu maen bareng Ronaldo...

gua ga kebayang kl mrk 1 team....
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gua ga kebayang kl mrk 1 team....
hwhwhwhwh...jangan dibayangkan bro...terlalu mengerikan...kekekekeke...

apa lagi kalau ditambah satu penyerang tengah seperti Rooney yang pekerja keras, rajin bergerak membuka ruang, bisa membuat gol dan juga memiliki visi bermain yang bagus...

hmmmph...coba aja bayangin...kekekekke...

bek lawan bisa stress...
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Just wondering .....

Ronaldo has proven himself , suited in 2 different leagues ( La Liga and Premier League ) or 3 leagues ( if we add Portugal League also ) ....

But, Messi ??? He (only) play in La Liga....and , IMHO , he will never gonna make it in Premier league ...
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haloo bro gravedigga, thanks for the response, appreciate it mate!!

jadi kesimpulannya Messi apa Ronaldo nih?? hehehehe

apa yang bikin gw lebih cenderung milih Ronaldo adalah salah satunya opini dari mas red_devilz

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Just wondering .....

Ronaldo has proven himself , suited in 2 different leagues ( La Liga and Premier League ) or 3 leagues ( if we add Portugal League also ) ....

But, Messi ??? He (only) play in La Liga....and , IMHO , he will never gonna make it in Premier league ...
naaah itu dia, Ronaldo terbukti lebih baik karena sudah bermain di dua liga besar di dunia dan keduanya terbukti mematikan.

untuk masalah tim, Madrid adalah tim yang bagus mungkin lebih bagus dari Barcelona, tetapi Barcelona lebih hebat karena Barca bermain lebih kolektif secara tim, teamworknya juga tinggi. Gerard Pique aja berkembang lebih pesat di Barcelona
(referensi: awal musim ini madrid kewalahan tanpa Ronaldo, dan ingat Los Galacticos versi Figo, Zidane, Beckham, Ronaldo, Raul, dkk?)

untuk masalah tim Portugal, sama halnya kaya Argentina, walaupun ada Messi, Argentina juga hampir tidak lolos Piala Dunia 2010...tapi sebenarnya susah juga sih menilai pemain dari performanya di timnas

bener bro, Messi bagus di tekhnik passing dan positioningnya, Ronaldo juga!! inget ga Manchester Trio Tevez, Rooney, dan Ronaldo? (belum ada Berbatov)...wuiihh maut tuh, teamworkn tiga pemain itu tinggi bro (including passing and positioning), Barca dengan Messinya aja kalah...

kesimpulan gw, Ronaldo lebih baik dari Messi, Ronaldo dikasih bola kaya apa, lagi ngapain tuh orang, bisa jadi gol sama dia, dan nyetaknya pake apa aja juga bisa hohohoho....

bukan berarti Messi jelek loh, tetapi gw rasa Ronaldo lebih unggul daripada Messi

demikian bro, thanks yaa responsenya

btw, ngeri juga yaa kalo mereka satu team...ga kebayang bro

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Satu-satunya kelemahan Ronaldo adalah, dia membuat ketergantungan tim kepada nya menjadi begitu tinggi ...

Saya setuju dengan Bro big_alto , Real Madrid tanpa Ronaldo bukanlah Real Madrid yg sebenarnya. Performa tim tsb jauh menurun ...

Tapi Barcelona tanpa Messi tetaplah "Barcelona yg sebenarnya" .... selama masih ada duet Xavi - Iniesta d lini kedua Barca ...

Barcelona memang mempunyai keseimbangan tim yg jauh lebih baik daripada Real Madrid ...
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