[EPL] Manchester United 2 vs 0 Cardiff City

[adi_Giggsy]

Originally Posted by goodfron

MotM ya... meski belum menunjukkan kualitas Mata yang sesungguhnya. Kehadiran/pembelian Mata minimal semalam menumbuhkan rasa percaya diri bagi semua elemen di United. Skema juga mulai berubah, dini hari tadi United sudah mulai meninggalkan aliran "sayap garis keras". Young berhasil beradaptasi dengan skema, dia gak selalu crossing begitu dapat bola tapi berani nusuk dan berotasi dg Mata/RvP ketengah. Nah, Valencia ini yang masih tergagap-gagap, karena sudah kelamaan menganut faham "sayap garis keras" mungkin Moyes harus memodifikasi instruksi ke Valencia, mungkin dia kasih instruksinya "you need to shoot more!" sedikit dirubah menjadi "cross at goalkeeper more!". Mungkin dg perintah tersebut Valencia jadi ngeh, krn bisa jadi mindset dia bahasa Inggrisnya "nendang" adalah "crossing"

Lini tengah memang masih ada lobang dini hari tadi, perlu segera dicarikan solusi. Masih gampang kena counter attack.

Berharap Mata bisa cepet menemukan performa terbaiknya, berharap disisa Januari 2014 manajemen membeli pemain yang tepat terutama di DM sama LB, berharap RvP, Rooney, Fellaini tetep fit sampe' akhir musim dan bermain reguler.

#BELIEVE

Trio Maut menurut ane kalau yg ini main bareng : RvP, Rooney, Mata, jadi kangen trio maut Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney. Dan lini paling lemah semalem menurut ane adalah di CM terutama Pak Man Giggs, nah disini neh perlu seorang destroyer lagi kalau bisa dibilang mirip Gattuso/Hargo dulu mungkin ini bisa jadi solusinya kali ya "FC Porto Fernando Francisco Reges." dan LB bro Evra walaupun keren di nyerang tapi kalau udah balik seringan keteteran karena faktor usia. Vale juga perlu dirubah gaya mainnya tuh udah kebaca dari dulu-dulu apa emang doi kagak bisa merubah tipe mainnya sendiri ya? atau memang instruksi Moyes terus-terusan seperti itu

[DeE_]

ternyata kehadiran mata bener2 jadi impact yg bagus buat united..meski semalem posisiny lebih banyak jauh dibelakang, malah diblkng winger..tapi dibanding kagawasan yg lebih ke umpan pendek, mata lebih ke tipe penjelajah mirip wazza. Semoga kedepannya roo-rvp-mata bisa tampil bareng, jadi lebih banyak kreasi serangan..Coba Nani sembuh ya, lumayan tuh buat bongkar defend lawan asal ga egosentris , dibanding vale yg cuma 1 arah doank ( ga maju ya mundur ) .... Semoga komposisi terbaik bisa di dapet next match

[Haji Paidin]

Hadirnya Mata cukup menjadi mata bagi serangan Manchester United (MotM di debut bukan prestasi remeh lah)
tapi posisinya nanggung antara defense sama offense. (jadi mirip Scholes di akhir jabatannya...) tapi skema permainan membaik, tidak melulu dari sisi sayap. Sayangnya Pakdhe Giggs mambuat pertahanan agak longgar karen double pivot yang diharapkan ternyata tidak jalan (double pivot apaan? lha wong DM nya cuma Jonesy..).. beda kalau misalnya ditaruh Fletcher di sana
lumayan, perbaikan skema dan perbaikan hasil.. tapi belum bisa dijadikan patokan, mengingat baru melawan tim promosi..

[troy andreas]

Originally Posted by DeE_

ternyata kehadiran mata bener2 jadi impact yg bagus buat united..meski semalem posisiny lebih banyak jauh dibelakang, malah diblkng winger..tapi dibanding kagawasan yg lebih ke umpan pendek, mata lebih ke tipe penjelajah mirip wazza. Semoga kedepannya roo-rvp-mata bisa tampil bareng, jadi lebih banyak kreasi serangan..Coba Nani sembuh ya, lumayan tuh buat bongkar defend lawan asal ga egosentris , dibanding vale yg cuma 1 arah doank ( ga maju ya mundur ) .... Semoga komposisi terbaik bisa di dapet next match

Originally Posted by Haji Paidin

Hadirnya Mata cukup menjadi mata bagi serangan Manchester United (MotM di debut bukan prestasi remeh lah)
tapi posisinya nanggung antara defense sama offense. (jadi mirip Scholes di akhir jabatannya...) tapi skema permainan membaik, tidak melulu dari sisi sayap. Sayangnya Pakdhe Giggs mambuat pertahanan agak longgar karen double pivot yang diharapkan ternyata tidak jalan (double pivot apaan? lha wong DM nya cuma Jonesy..).. beda kalau misalnya ditaruh Fletcher di sana
lumayan, perbaikan skema dan perbaikan hasil.. tapi belum bisa dijadikan patokan, mengingat baru melawan tim promosi..

Originally Posted by adi_Giggsy

Trio Maut menurut ane kalau yg ini main bareng : RvP, Rooney, Mata, jadi kangen trio maut Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney. Dan lini paling lemah semalem menurut ane adalah di CM terutama Pak Man Giggs, nah disini neh perlu seorang destroyer lagi kalau bisa dibilang mirip Gattuso/Hargo dulu mungkin ini bisa jadi solusinya kali ya "FC Porto Fernando Francisco Reges." dan LB bro Evra walaupun keren di nyerang tapi kalau udah balik seringan keteteran karena faktor usia. Vale juga perlu dirubah gaya mainnya tuh udah kebaca dari dulu-dulu apa emang doi kagak bisa merubah tipe mainnya sendiri ya? atau memang instruksi Moyes terus-terusan seperti itu

Originally Posted by jifortin

Menurut ane sebagai fans awam
Keliatan gimana perbedaan Mata dan Kagawa dalam mengkreasikan serangan. Dalam match ini Kagawa yang bila bermain lebih sering mengandalkan umpan-umpan pendek 1-2 berbeda dengan Mata yang bisa melepaskan kombinasi baik umpan panjang dan pendek. Dan menurut ane di match ini Mata terlihat sering berperang sebagai wall / tembok untuk pemain lain. Tapi minusnya untuk Mata menurut ane dia terlalu sering memposisikan bola agar berada di kaki kirinya, dan itu membuat pemain lawan lebih mudah untuk merebut bola. But, overall Mata menurut ane layak dinobatkan sebagai MOTM di match ini. Permainan United memang belum terlalu berkembang, tapi ane suka karena ada pemain tengah yang sering menjemput / meminta bola (Mata) CMIIW

Padahal tadi Mata gak berhasil bikin 1 intercept pun, gak ada clearances & Block 1 pun. Siapa bilang Mata sering turun kebelakang jemput bola? Cek statistic babak pertama ini:



Keseluruhan:

Sorry to say, ane bukan penggemar Kagawa namun dalam atur ritme Kagawa masih lebih baik jika hanya dibanding match ini. Jangan lupa Kagawa berani bikin tackle & rajin bikin intercept. Molde unggul dalam ball poss & passing secara keseluruhan, dimana peran playmaker yang dalam hal ini teman- teman sanjung dalam diri Mata? Jika mau objektif berdasar statistik & pengaruh dilapangan Smalling lebih baik dari Mata. Puji sih iya, tapi jangan langsung mengdiskreditkan pemain lain. Lagian fans Chelsea juga mengakui Mata lemah dalam bertahan, ane juga coba cari buktinya dari beberapa situs statistik, ternyata hal itu benar.

Originally Posted by goodfron

MotM ya... meski belum menunjukkan kualitas Mata yang sesungguhnya. Kehadiran/pembelian Mata minimal semalam menumbuhkan rasa percaya diri bagi semua elemen di United.

nah ini dia, secara mental kehadiran Mata juga RvP & Rooney menaikkan semangat juang pemain. Positifnya supporter juga merasa lebih terhibur.

Originally Posted by goodfron

Skema juga mulai berubah, dini hari tadi United sudah mulai meninggalkan aliran "sayap garis keras". Young berhasil beradaptasi dengan skema, dia gak selalu crossing begitu dapat bola tapi berani nusuk dan berotasi dg Mata/RvP ketengah. Nah, Valencia ini yang masih tergagap-gagap, karena sudah kelamaan menganut faham "sayap garis keras" mungkin Moyes harus memodifikasi instruksi ke Valencia, mungkin dia kasih instruksinya "you need to shoot more!" sedikit dirubah menjadi "cross at goalkeeper more!". Mungkin dg perintah tersebut Valencia jadi ngeh, krn bisa jadi mindset dia bahasa Inggrisnya "nendang" adalah "crossing"

Hasil study tour Moyes dalam rangka "watching football" mulai berpengaruh. Gaya Bayern juga kan yang suka nusuk dari flank?

Originally Posted by goodfron

Lini tengah memang masih ada lobang dini hari tadi, perlu segera dicarikan solusi. Masih gampang kena counter attack.

Berharap Mata bisa cepet menemukan performa terbaiknya, berharap disisa Januari 2014 manajemen membeli pemain yang tepat terutama di DM sama LB, berharap RvP, Rooney, Fellaini tetep fit sampe' akhir musim dan bermain reguler.

PR besar Moyes sejak awal musim, sudah lebih dari separuh musim namun belum menemukan solusinya. Beli pemain IMHO bukanlah solusi satu- satunya, jika Moyes gak berhasil memaksimalkan stock yang ada diramu dengan strategi yang pas maka sampe akhir musim tetap kita akan melihat lini tengah terus kancrut. Khusus di match tadi, Jones main cukup baik, tapi Giggs kali ini off form. Jones bikin 3 tackle, 5 clearences, 1 blok, 1 intercept & menang duel 6x.

Khusus untuk LB, Evra & Buttner gak bisa diharapkan banyak. Kalau lawannya CR7/ Bale uda gak tau jadinya sisi pertahanan sebelah kiri jadi seperti apa.

[tumpal_oneunited]

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Selama Valencia ada, gak mungkin deh itu jadi kenyataan.

Wkwkwkwk...
Vale oh Vale..
Bener ato ga bener maennya tetap aja jadi starting line up..
Kalopun ga jadi starting line up,,tetap aja diturunin sbg pemain pengganti..
Beruntung benar nasibmu nak...nak...nak...

[zudomiriku]

'Results will improve with Mata, RVP and Rooney playing together'... Moyes takes a look on the bright side after Cardiff win

David Moyes backed Manchester United to hit top gear after Juan Mata's debut ended in victory over Cardiff City at Old Trafford on Tuesday night.

United's £37million new signing played from the start and Moyes also welcomed back Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney after injury.

Van Persie scored six minutes into his return before Ashley Young fired the second to give the Barclays Premier League champions a much-needed 2-0 win.


Star: Juan Mata made his debut for United in the 2-0 win over Cardiff at Old Trafford

'We got Robin and Wayne back and Juan made his debut, so all in all it was a good night,' said Moyes. 'The results will get much better with them but I'm still hoping for our play to be much better.

'We're starting to get players in. What I need is competition, I need people to play well. At the moment we've not had enough at the top of their game and hopefully the competition for places will help make that happen.

'I thought Juan played really well. He made some terrific passes for us, got us on the ball and gave us a different look about us at times. He will grow and we'll get used to him as well.

'I was a little bit worried about how his overall match fitness would be, but when we got to 2-0 I thought the longer I kept it on and gave him more minutes hopefully it would get him up to speed quickly.

'We've missed Robin's goals. He can get you one out nothing. He's done it all last year at United and we've really missed him.'

Mata played for 84 minutes before leaving the pitch to a rousing ovation. Afterwards the Spaniard admitted he is determined to make up for lost time after a frustrating season on the fringes at Chelsea.

'It was special day for me, my first game for United,' he said. 'What I love the most is to play so these minutes for me are very important.

'The most important thing is that we won and I felt comfortable with my teammates. With Robin and Wayne we're talking two of the best strikers in the world so it's going to be amazing to play alongside them.

'The next game is a final for us and we'll try to get the three points and climb the table. We were talking in the dressing-room about trying to win as many games until the end of the season.'

A third straight league defeat as Cardiff manager made it an unhappy return to Old Trafford for former United favourite Ole Gunnar Solskjaer even though he was given a warm welcome back by the home crowd.

'I've always had a great reception from the fans here, and it was fantastic,' said Solskjaer, whose side remain bottom of the table.

'We will get there. We've got a great chance next month because e have three home games against teams in that second league.'


Unhappy return: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was welcomed warmly on his return to Manchester, but failed to take any points back to Wales

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2547777/David-Moyes-says-results-improve-Robin-van-Persie-Wayne-Rooney-Juan-Mata-playing.html

[stamansa]

Originally Posted by DeE_

ternyata kehadiran mata bener2 jadi impact yg bagus buat united..meski semalem posisiny lebih banyak jauh dibelakang, malah diblkng winger..tapi dibanding kagawasan yg lebih ke umpan pendek, mata lebih ke tipe penjelajah mirip wazza. Semoga kedepannya roo-rvp-mata bisa tampil bareng, jadi lebih banyak kreasi serangan..Coba Nani sembuh ya, lumayan tuh buat bongkar defend lawan asal ga egosentris , dibanding vale yg cuma 1 arah doank ( ga maju ya mundur ) .... Semoga komposisi terbaik bisa di dapet next match

Yup! Apalagi umpannya yg akurat (sayang Young kurang sigap)
Tampaknya Moyes masih belum percaya kalo RVP duet sama Rooney. Soalnya RVP tipe sendiri

[h7die]

Originally Posted by dhodoadrian

wuih baru maen Mata udah man of the match aja.. padahal saya ngiranya Young yg jd MOTM, salah satu penampilan terbaik young lah musim ini, main nya ngotot.

seenggaknya Mata bisa ngasih angin segar buat kreativitas serangan, udah punya Kagawa sih sebelumnya, tp kayaknya Mata akan lebih banyak main drpada si jepang itu disisa musim ini

MotM itu kan karena vote yak? jadinya wajar aja Mata yang kepilih karena kayaknya banyak fans yang excited dengan kehadiran doi. Gue sendiri lebih memilih Smalling yang jadi MotM, abis itu Young.

Setuju Mata akan lebih sering dimainkan disbanding Kagawa, tapi menurut ane lebih karena Mata bisa menampilkan physical presence di lapangan disbanding Kagawa. Kalo ga salah pernah dibahas juga kalo alasan Kagawa lebih sering dimainkan di UCL karena di sana tidak terlalu mengandalkan kontak fisik disbanding EPL. *cmiiw

Originally Posted by troy andreas

....... Molde unggul dalam ball poss & passing secara keseluruhan, dimana peran playmaker yang dalam hal ini teman- teman sanjung dalam diri Mata? ......

Molde?

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Hasil study tour Moyes dalam rangka "watching football" mulai berpengaruh. Gaya Bayern juga kan yang suka nusuk dari flank?

Young emang tipikal inverted winger kok, karena kaki terkuatnya justru kaki kanan.

[J. A. Adji]

Kemenangan yang sangat wajar. Justru tidak wajar kalau sampai kalah dari Cardiff

Tapi apakah menandakan MU sudah bermain lebih baik?
Klo tolak ukurnya Cardiff, ane rasa gak bisa dijadikan patokan. Ini hanya satu kemenangan dari 15 pertandingan lagi yang harus dimenangkan.
Satu hal yang tidak dimiliki Moyes (IMO) adalah mental juara, itu yang menyebabkan timnya bermain labil. Tapi bukan berarti gak bisa menang.
Senang atas kemenangan ini boleh, ane juga senang. Tapi klo puas dan mengatakan MU sudah kembali ke track nanti dulu.

MU bermain baik kemarin, karena lawannya hanya Cardiff yang dalam segala hal memang kalah dari MU. Ane masih menantikan saat kita bertandang ke Arsenal atau saat kedatangan tamu macam Man City dan Liverpool bahkan saat bertandang ke Everton. Tim2 ini mungkin lebih pantas dijadikan tolak ukur daripada Cardiff.

[zudomiriku]

Manchester United 2-0 Cardiff: Mata gets off to a flying start! Record £37m signing makes early impact on his Old Trafford debut

It took six minutes. Six minutes for Juan Mata to demonstrate his worth to Manchester United, six minutes for him to link, albeit circuitously, with Robin van Persie and conjure a goal at Old Trafford.

This being the David Moyes edition of the champions, however, it was not until close to an hour later that they could begin to feel safe against the Premier League’s bottom club, thanks to a cracking goal by Ashley Young.

Even so, baby steps, baby steps. By the time Mata began tiring late in the game — the odd mistimed tackle here, a rare misplaced pass there, replaced by Adnan Januzaj after 85 minutes — few were in any doubt that they had seen the debut of a future United great. Mind you, they have been starved of the usual good news around here of late.


Quick off the mark: Robin van Persie took just six minutes to put the hosts a goal to the good


Much-maligned: Ashley Young made it 2-0 with a long-range shot

Mata was not brilliant but he was most definitely an upgrade, and better than expected, having played no football for close to a month. He needs to be in top gear by the time of the visit to Arsenal on February 12, but the pass which set up United’s first goal will earn him considerable credit in these parts.

Mata collected the ball from the defence, deeper than a conventional No 10, but immediately demonstrated a counter-attacking instinct that fits in perfectly with the ethos of his new club. A perfect crossfield pass to Patrice Evra and United were away.

Evra’s cross was headed against the bar by Luis Antonio Valencia and the ball ricocheted around the area as United scrambled to convert. Out it came and was followed up by Van Persie, whose effort was saved by David Marshall; out it came and it was followed up by Van Persie, whose header, second time, gave the goalkeeper no chance.

So it wasn’t an assist, or even the assist for an assist, but had Mata not applied his singular vision to the build-up, United would not have been able to play with a safety net for so long; and those little securities are important these days.



This is a team with the jitters, but Mata is a cool customer and on the ball he did the simple things well. Another deep cross could have advanced the gap in the 19th minute but Young failed to get the necessary touch at the far post.

He is better from distance, it would seem. In the 59th minute, Young ensured Cardiff would end the night where they began with a goal that banished the memory of some insipid performances and dubious falls this season.

He received the ball on the left, cut inside, kept going with purpose and finally unleashed a shot across Marshall that flew in at the bottom corner from 25 yards.

It could have been three 15 minutes later, but Marshall tipped the ball on to the far post after Valencia tried to curl one past him from inside the penalty area. In injury time, first Januzaj and then Wayne Rooney went close.

Arm in arm: Cardiff City manager Solskjaer with Wayne Rooney at the end of the game


Dutch treat: Van Persie (right) nets the opener with this precision header


Changing of the guard: Wayne Rooney replaced Van Persie in the 63rd minute


Robin van Persie netted after six minutes to give Manchester United the perfect start


Ashley Young made the points secure with a rasping drive.


Popping up all over the place... Juan Mata was a constant outlet for Manchester United on a promising debut

The problem for Mata, obviously, is that he is the first. There will be improvements, a transformation most likely, and United will be better than this. Until then, there will be spells — as there were in the first half — when they are being pegged back by Cardiff City and the new man is left to wonder how soon it will be before he again belongs to a team who just brush inferiors aside.

It does not help that, for all his improvement season on season, David de Gea is still a goalkeeper vulnerable to an old-fashioned up and under — and Cardiff, being Welsh, are not averse to that.

De Gea made a very intuitive save with his feet from a Mark Hudson header after Peter Whittingham’s 24th-minute corner, but it is worth noting that the visitors would not have had such a chance at all had De Gea come for a cross that looped up by his far post.

Perhaps his reluctance was explained soon after when he did attempt to deal with a similar effort at his near post, only to fumble the ball over the byline. This uncertainty, however, means United are never allowed to feel comfortable with a single-goal lead, mindful that it might only take one half-chance against the run of play to equalise. De Gea as good as cost United a place in the Capital One Cup final in his last game, remember.

Injuries have played havoc with Moyes’s best-laid plans this season, but even so seeing Ryan Giggs and Phil Jones in the heart of midfeld was an indication of the improvement required in the depth of this squad. Giggs is defying nature to continue as a Premier League footballer at 40, while Jones is in most minds a centre half out of position. He may yet make this role his own, but he needs to have a run in the team, not a succession of emergency turns.

Still got it: Ryan Giggs (right) made his 800th start - and 959th appearance - for Manchester United at the ripe old age of 40


It's that man again: Sir Alex Ferguson took his seat in the Old Trafford stands


Sage advice: Rooney and Solskjaer share a moment after the final whistle

Certainly there is work to be done strengthening United’s trunk, as was demonstrated when Jordon Mutch strode through the middle without hassle before releasing the ball to Craig Noone, who moved inside but shot wastefully over.

Plucky resistance is no use to Cardiff as the weeks pass, though. They began this game rooted to the bottom and the appointment of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has done little to reverse their fortunes. His return has gone down well with the United fans, though, and it was noticeable that his name was sung by the home crowd more forcefully than those of Moyes, Rooney, Van Persie and even, yes, Mata. He got more name checks than he did at the Cardiff end too.

Yet no manager has ever survived on the love of the common people and it is plain Cardiff have an uphill task to remain in the league without an obvious cutting edge. They had good possession without greatly troubling United, and most teams can give them at least the odd scare these days. At least they looked like Cardiff — their shirts a vivid deep blue due to a clash of the red that owner Vincent Tan appears to find so uniquely lucky.

‘We’re Cardiff City, we’ll always be blue,’ sang the visitors — a statement that will most certainly be true if, come the end of the season, Solskjaer is still a bigger hero at Old Trafford than he is in South Wales.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2547458/Manchester-United-2-0-Cardiff-match-report-Robin-van-Persie-outshines-Juan-Mata-early-goal-comeback.html