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Old 30-10-2012, 11:17 PM   #181
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apa apaan nih..?? Istilah gw ente pake Gung..??
Ente musti bayar lisensi ke gw kalau nyebut Terguncang FC

Salah satu hal yang bikin gw suka sama United, fansnya bukan tipe Ababil terguncang yang tiap kali kalah selalu nyari kambing bandot, eh... kambing hitam, tapi analisis dengan sederet data dan fakta...

hmmm... respect to ourselves ...
padahal kambing-kambingnya udah pada berkorban sejak jum'at lhooo ...

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Unggul 2 gol di menit-menit awal , dibalap sampai imbang , dan menang tipis dng gol kontroversial . Efek domino : Forum2 atau akun socmed di internet dibanjiri dng protes keras dr fans , yang lucunya bukan hanya fans Chelski semata .

- Segi positifnya : Mentalitas juara United kental sekali dari match2 awal sampai sekarang .

- Segi negatifnya : Kemenangan diraih dng bumbu teori konspirasi ala ABU / Man Utd Haters. Poros konflik nya : Clattenburg, dan subjek perdebatan : Diving El Nino dan Gol kontroversial Chicharito.

I . Fakta Pertandingan :


1) United mendapat angin segar dari 2 kartu merah yg diterima 2 pemain Chelski di babak kedua .
2) Pasca gol van Persie yg membuat United unggul 2-0 , perlahan tapi pasti Chelski mulai mendominasi permainan , sampai datang gol Mata dan Ramires , dan disusul kartu merah.
3) Organisasi lini pertahanan kacau balau , dan nggak ada CB yg jago duel udara pasca cideranya Vidic
4) Duet Carrick-Cleverley , yg satu bertipe Deep-Lying Playmaker dan yg satu Box-to-Box midfielder . Gak ada satupun yg jago dalam tackling .
5) Trio lini depan Rooney-van Persie-Chicharito sedang on fire , dan ironisnya berbanding terbalik dng performa lini belakang United .
6) Chicharito is the new Filippo Inzaghi . No need a world class technique such as : Dribbling , Passing , etc . The most important thing : He know how to score goal when we need it .
7) David de Gea save our ass again . A world class goalie in the making .


II. Insiden Kartu Merah :

- Ivanovic : Professional foul , coz jadi pemain bertahan terakhir di depan kiper . Kartu merah yang gak perlu diperdebatkan.

- Torres : Kartu kuning kedua pas insiden dng Evans layak diperdebatkan . Menurut saya , Torres lebih pantas mendapat kartu merah setelah dia mengeluarkan Kungfu Kick ala lulusan Nigel De Jong's School of Martial Art .


III. Subjek Perdebatan : Diving El Nino


Kartu kuning pas tackling Evans ke Torres , kembali ke subjektivitas Wasit menilai apakah itu Diving atau tidak . Jujur , sepintas pas siaran live , ketika pertandingan dihentikan sejenak , saya mengira Evans yg diberi kartu kuning oleh Clattenburg .

Dan dari literatur --->>> Morris, Paul; Lewis, David (March 2010). "Tackling Diving: The Perception of Deceptive Intentions in Association football". Journal of Nonverbal Behaviour 34 (1): 1–13.

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A 2008 study found that there are recognizable traits that can often be observed when a player is diving. They are:

(a) a separation in time between the impact and the simulation,
(b) a lack of ballistic continuity (the player moves further than would be expected from the momentum of the tackle) and
(c) lack of contact consistency (the player nurses a body part other than where the impact occurred, such as contact to the chest causing the player to fly to the ground, holding his face).
Qta lihat poin (b) "the player moves further than would be expected from the momentum of the tackle" ---->>> dari tayangan ulang bisa dilihat , bahwa El Nino jatuh dng efek yang lebih dr momentum yg dihasilkan oleh tackle Evans .

So , apakah El Nino diving di insiden tsb : YA .


IV . Gol Kontroversial Chicharito

Apakah posisi Chicharito offside ketika menerima bola ? Dilihat dari tayangan ulang : YA . Chicharito memang offside . Dan figur yg harus bertanggung jawab adl linesman / hakim garis , yang meng-sahkan gol tsb .

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n.b. Kontroversi adl bagian dr Sepak Bola itu sendiri . Kalau Man Utd haters / anak ABU bacot tentang teori konspirasi , mending mereka pindah aja jadi penonton olahraga Catur atau Balet .....

Ah next week di EPL yg jadi wasit Mike Dean

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media juga lebih menonjolkan pemberitaan kontroversi dibanding penjelasan rule of game ke pembaca/pemirsa...
itulah sebabnya yang katanya penggila sepakbola terutama para ABU kepnacing kebawa arus kebencian tanpa melihat rule of game terlebih dahulu...
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IV . Gol Kontroversial Chicharito

Apakah posisi Chicharito offside ketika menerima bola ? Dilihat dari tayangan ulang : YA . Chicharito memang offside . Dan figur yg harus bertanggung jawab adl linesman / hakim garis , yang meng-sahkan gol tsb .

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n.b. Kontroversi adl bagian dr Sepak Bola itu sendiri . Kalau Man Utd haters / anak ABU bacot tentang teori konspirasi , mending mereka pindah aja jadi penonton olahraga Catur atau Balet .....

Ah next week di EPL yg jadi wasit Mike Dean
bukannya sudah jelas bahwa Chicarito hanya offside sebelum Rafael bahkan menerima bola. kalau slow motion dari angle yang berbeda jelas kelihatan kok, Gary Cahill bergerak mundur tepat sebelum Rafael melakukan passing, artinya Cahill adalah orang yang berdiri paling akhir. Yang artinya passing Rafael tepat terjadi katika Chicarito pada posisi onside...
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bukannya sudah jelas bahwa Chicarito hanya offside sebelum Rafael bahkan menerima bola. kalau slow motion dari angle yang berbeda jelas kelihatan kok, Gary Cahill bergerak mundur tepat sebelum Rafael melakukan passing, artinya Cahill adalah orang yang berdiri paling akhir. Yang artinya passing Rafael tepat terjadi katika Chicarito pada posisi onside...
Ane lihat dr gambar yg banyak beredar di internet,Bro. Sesaat ketika Rafael mau melakukan passing, Chicharito masih berada pada posisi offside. Pas umpan berada di kaki Chicharito , Cahill memang berada segaris dng Chicharito , CMIIW.

Tipis banget memang, dan dlm sepersekian detik linesman/hakim garis manapun bisa melakukan keputusan yg salah.
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bukannya sudah jelas bahwa Chicarito hanya offside sebelum Rafael bahkan menerima bola. kalau slow motion dari angle yang berbeda jelas kelihatan kok, Gary Cahill bergerak mundur tepat sebelum Rafael melakukan passing, artinya Cahill adalah orang yang berdiri paling akhir. Yang artinya passing Rafael tepat terjadi katika Chicarito pada posisi onside...
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Ane lihat dr gambar yg banyak beredar di internet,Bro. Sesaat ketika Rafael mau melakukan passing, Chicharito masih berada pada posisi offside. Pas umpan berada di kaki Chicharito , Cahill memang berada segaris dng Chicharito , CMIIW.
Tipis banget memang, dan dlm sepersekian detik linesman/hakim garis manapun bisa melakukan keputusan yg salah.

Iya gw setuju. Intinya adalah bukan masalah momentum kapan Rafael bener2 nendang bola dan kapan Chicharito mundur, soalnya emang menurut gw pribadi chicha emang offside (gambar 2, sepersekiannnn detik setelah rafael tendang bola)...





Sementara hakim garis dalam sepersekain detik hrus ngasih keputusan, ngeliat dr sudut pandang linesman, disitu ada 2 bek plus 1 kiper yg numpuk nyaris sejajar, gw rasa memang keputusan sulit, sementara chicha ini gerakan mundur (dan bek chelsea lari mendekati gawang) cepet banget.. itu offside. Salah siapa? hakim garis. Dan kesalahan kayak gini wajar, hanya karena tensi yg tinggi jadi keliatan gak wajar IMHO
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Gol Chicharito murni off side. Tapi siapa yang bisa pastikan itu offside apa nggak pas kejadian. Gerakan Chicha ma bek2 Chelsea berbeda arah.

Ya udah lah... Chelsea dah "dikasih" menang di CoC,he...
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media juga lebih menonjolkan pemberitaan kontroversi dibanding penjelasan rule of game ke pembaca/pemirsa...
itulah sebabnya yang katanya penggila sepakbola terutama para ABU kepnacing kebawa arus kebencian tanpa melihat rule of game terlebih dahulu...
kalo bawa rule of the game, takut ga kuat 'CPU' nya

yaudah kasi aja bahasan yg gampang, teori konspirasi
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Bola.net - Pihak Metropolitan Police
menghentikan penyelidikan terkait klaim rasis
Chelsea terhadap wasit Mark
Clattenburg. Langkah tersebut diambil
karena kurangnya bukti.
Usai laga melawan Manchester United
bulan lalu, Chelsea melaporkan bahwa
Clattenburg menggunakan "inappropriate
language" terhadap pemain mereka, yakni
John Obi Mikel. Polisi pun diminta untuk
menyelidikinya.
Namun, Mikel tak pernah mendatangi
kepolisian. Oleh karena itu, sebagai akibat
tidak adanya bukti-bukti pendukung,
penyelidikan pun dihentikan.
"Penyelidikan telah dilakukan, tapi tidak ada
korban yang maju. "Tanpa adanya korban
dan atau bukti apa pun, penyelidikan tak
bisa dilanjutkan," bunyi pernyataan dari
pihak Metropolitan Police.
Sekarang, hanya tinggal FA yang menangani
masalah ini. Di lain pihak, Clattenburg
sendiri telah menyangkal semua tuduhan.
Selain itu, belum ada keputusan mutlak
apakah dia benar terbukti melakukan
pelanggaran atau tidak.
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