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Old 11-02-2014, 10:32 PM   #11
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Ane juga bingung Oom malahan

Sempet ane juga ngobrol" beberapa waktu bahwa Moyes saat di Everton mengandalkan Fellaini, jarang-jarang doi menggunakan sayap. Nah, saat ini, United menggunakan sayapnya yang ternyata saat ini malah membuat lawan dengan mudah membaca taktik Moyes.

IMHO, kalau Moyes memang ingin membentuk tim, yang sesuai dengan apa yg dia inginkan, ya jangan pakai sayap mainnya, coba aja skalian pakai cara dia saat di Everton.
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:42 PM   #12
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Ane sih sebetulnya ga terlalu keberatan seandainya moyes tetap pake pola serangan sayap,,tp ya itu..yg udah dibahas di trit lain,,sayapnya musti yg paling yahud crossingnya ,,dan strikernya musti yg jago heading.....

Lah musim ini siapa winger terbaik kita??siapa goal poacher terbaik kita?

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Kalau soal striker, IMO we have 2 striker berbahaya yang "kehebatannya" sudah sangat terbukti. Ditambah dengan kehadiran Hernandez sebagai back up yang mana dijaman SAF penempatan posisinya sangat dipuji oleh SAF. Pundi gol mereka musim ini berkurang pertama karena faktor cedere, kedua karena kurangnya pasokan bola yang masuk akal untuk dilanjutkan jadi gol.

Winger? Sebenarnya kita punya winger bagus harapan timnas Inggris dimasa depan, sebelum di beli United, Arsenal, Chelsea sangat menginginkan anak ini, namun sayang doi gak dipercaya, malah dilempar ke Cardiff saat ini.

Valencia, Young, terbukti enggak bisa berbuat banyak, Nani banyak dengan cederanya, bahkan pemegang rekor cedera hamstring terlama (maybe ), Januzaj? saat ini yang terbaik namun masih kalah pengalaman.

Waktu bursa transfer musim dingin, harusnya jika Moyes tau winger kita lemah & masih mengandalkan serangan dari sayap, IMO ada winger baru yang datang dan yang lama dijual untuk memenuhi slot, Mata memang pemain yang sangat bagus tapi ia bukan tipikal winger yang bisa memenuhi hasrat Moyes.

Om Dedi, itu artikel bicara soal Moyes kedepan di United, sayangnya harapan artikel guardian tsb gak kesampaian.

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Ane juga bingung Oom malahan

Sempet ane juga ngobrol" beberapa waktu bahwa Moyes saat di Everton mengandalkan Fellaini, jarang-jarang doi menggunakan sayap. Nah, saat ini, United menggunakan sayapnya yang ternyata saat ini malah membuat lawan dengan mudah membaca taktik Moyes.

IMHO, kalau Moyes memang ingin membentuk tim, yang sesuai dengan apa yg dia inginkan, ya jangan pakai sayap mainnya, coba aja skalian pakai cara dia saat di Everton.
Di Everton, winger mereka terbantu dengan kehadiran Baines & Coleman. Waktu United draw 4-4 dengan Everton 2 musim lalu Fellaini bisa heading bola kiriman siapa hayo?
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:57 PM   #13
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:58 PM   #14
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@OptaJoe: 532 - Manchester United have played the most open play crosses in the PL this season, Liverpool the fewest (274).

Noh sampe mecahin rekor crossing di BPL wakakakaka....
Emang dalam beberapa musim terakhir MUFC selalu pake sayap garis keras, pola maen letter 'U'. Kalo para sayap bagus sih gapapa macam Ronaldo yg skillful n jago dribble cut inside, Giggs yg jago ngeflank n dribble, Beckham yg jago cross. Nah ini para sayap pada katrok semua, tengok tuh Valencia Young Nani, kecuali Januzaj yg inverted banget. Sejak musim lalu pun MUFC udah predictable n boring banget maennya. Nah ditangan Moyes sayap garis keras ini semakin menjadi sayap berani mati hahahaha. Udah jelas-jelas mentok eh masih aja dipake, match vs Fulham kemaren contohnya, muke gile ampe 81 cross, tapi golnya lewat kemelut doang. Moyes kayaknya soal strategi clueless banget deh, ditambah komentar-komentar bodohnya di media. Apaan sampe bilang "aku gatau harus ngapain agar menang". Sebenarnya sayap garis keras ini udah ada jalan buat direformasi, toh MUFC udah punya Kagawa, Januzaj, Rooney, Mata, tinggal aplikasinya aja kan. Mesti dicoba nih di training agar DNA n mindset para pemain ttg sayap garis keras bisa reform ke gameplay yg lebih narrow n fluid. Mau main wide pake flank sah-sah aja sih, toh itu bisa buat mancing defence lawan agar melebar, terus para pemain bisa menusuk n pake one two pass lewat tengah, toh materi pemain juga udah ada. Ayolah para fans ini pengen Moyes menerapkan formasi, strategi, n gameplay yg lebih atraktif, masalah hasil itu nantilah, fans akan mengapresiasi kok permainan caem. Daripada udah maen jelek, ngebosenin, tapi masih kalah juga.
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:42 AM   #15
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jadi ko ya seolah2 moyes ini ga bisa ngeliat kekuatan tim sendiri,, meski dia punya handicap sebagai pelatih baru, tapi apa iya sampe 3/4 musim berjalan masih blm bisa ngeliat kekuatan anak buahnya?? terkesan maksain cara bermain tanpa ngeliat SWOT tim sendiri
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Simple aja sih karena Fergie dan Moyes sama sepaham dengan sayap2 patah, makanya Moyes yg dipilih..
Memang sekarang sepakbola modern udah bnyak macam2 formasi.. Coba cek tim2 Eropa rata2 mereka udah ninggalin formasi 4-4-2 mereka cendrung pake 4 pemain bertahan, 2 dmf+1amf ato 1 dmf+1cmf+1amf di depan 1 striker dgn diapit 2 midfielder melebar ato 2 striker yg bisa bermain lebih ke dalam..
Sementara itu Fergie masih setia dengan pola 4-4-2 dengan mengandalka permainan sayap tapi gak seserhana itu, 4-4-2 pas di lapangan penerapan beragam2, ada yg betul2 traditional wide, ada juga cutting inside tapi intinya set up serangan masih dominan lewt flanks..

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jadi ko ya seolah2 moyes ini ga bisa ngeliat kekuatan tim sendiri,, meski dia punya handicap sebagai pelatih baru, tapi apa iya sampe 3/4 musim berjalan masih blm bisa ngeliat kekuatan anak buahnya?? terkesan maksain cara bermain tanpa ngeliat SWOT tim sendiri
lho? kok heran?

bukannya dia baru tau talenta kagawa ditengah itu pas abis lawan sociedad,baru dia bilang kagawa bagus..selama ini banyak yang udah bilang cuma dia ga ambil pusing..

pas ditaro kagawa di tengah dan bagus baru kliatan ama dia..

abis itu kagawanya ditaro ke kiri lagi




padahal sekarang jaman canggih,pasti banyak review pemain united sendiri bagaimana dan posisi terbaiknya apa,jadi dia bisa lebih cepet gitu mengenal tim..

oya lupa..orang kepercayaan SAF nya ga mau dipake ama dia..


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lho? kok heran?

bukannya dia baru tau talenta kagawa ditengah itu pas abis lawan sociedad,baru dia bilang kagawa bagus..selama ini banyak yang udah bilang cuma dia ga ambil pusing..

pas ditaro kagawa di tengah dan bagus baru kliatan ama dia..

abis itu kagawanya ditaro ke kiri lagi




padahal sekarang jaman canggih,pasti banyak review pemain united sendiri bagaimana dan posisi terbaiknya apa,jadi dia bisa lebih cepet gitu mengenal tim..

oya lupa..orang kepercayaan SAF nya ga mau dipake ama dia..


Bukannya Fergie sampe dengan pensiun juga nggak sadar posisi terbaik Kagawa
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lho? kok heran?

bukannya dia baru tau talenta kagawa ditengah itu pas abis lawan sociedad,baru dia bilang kagawa bagus..selama ini banyak yang udah bilang cuma dia ga ambil pusing..

pas ditaro kagawa di tengah dan bagus baru kliatan ama dia..

abis itu kagawanya ditaro ke kiri lagi




padahal sekarang jaman canggih,pasti banyak review pemain united sendiri bagaimana dan posisi terbaiknya apa,jadi dia bisa lebih cepet gitu mengenal tim..

oya lupa..orang kepercayaan SAF nya ga mau dipake ama dia..


ya jelas heran lah om...kan doi jenius seperti kata ente
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Bukannya Fergie sampe dengan pensiun juga nggak sadar posisi terbaik Kagawa
aahhh iyaaaa

SAF aja ga sadar masa kita ngarep sijenius ini sadar

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kejeniusannya jauh diatas kita masbro,tapi pasti ada suatu rencana akbar yang kita belum nyampe mikir kesana...
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