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Ekspektasi apa yang diharap dari pemain cadangan ???
gw pribadi sih ngga terlalu berharap diawal dia datang, secara dia di Madrid juga ngga kepake dan ngga kaget jga dengan hrg segitu wong sekarang kan memang semua2 mulai dari harga cabe, bawang pada mahal
Di Maria cukup briliant diawal kedatangan, kemudian bermain sangat jelek pasca cedera jadi kesimpulan saya overall penampilan Di Maria musim kemaren average lah ( Brilliant + Shiteee /2 = average
Ya ekspektasinya bukan jadi cadangan dan formnya bagus. Nggak pake shiteee. Klo formnya turun dari brilian sih ya wajar, nggak ada yang full konsisten, tapi ya nggak sampe kayak paruh II musim lalu lah. Klo aku sejak awal ya berharap banget dia brilian di United.

Tapi ya, bukan Di Maria yang jelek. Mungkin dia nggak bisa memenuhi ekspektasi Van Gaal. Van Gaal kan bener2 keras klo masalah filosofi main. Nggak cocok dan dia nggak mampu (atau nggak mau) adaptasi ya udh minggir.
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DMF = DiMariaFlop

bomadh baru semusim.

Flop nya adalah gak ngehasilin keuntungan lebih dari 50% dari modal.
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Harga beli < Harga jual (gak sampe semusim) = Flop?

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37.8% - Ángel Di María beat his opponent with just 37.8% of dribbles in the PL last season, below the league average of 49.1%. Predictable.
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Tapi ya, bukan Di Maria yang jelek. Mungkin dia nggak bisa memenuhi ekspektasi Van Gaal. Van Gaal kan bener2 keras klo masalah filosofi main. Nggak cocok dan dia nggak mampu (atau nggak mau) adaptasi ya udh minggir.
Pasca cedera Di Maria bermain jelek akibat kesalhan personal dia sendiri..
- Dribble yang gagal
- Predictable
- Sering shot ngasal ngga jelas
- Umpan yang tak sampai
jadi kalau alasan nya karena ngga cocok dengan filosofi LVG gw rasa belum sejauh itu alasan nya
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Pasca cedera Di Maria bermain jelek akibat kesalhan personal dia sendiri..
- Dribble yang gagal
- Predictable
- Sering shot ngasal ngga jelas
- Umpan yang tak sampai
jadi kalau alasan nya karena ngga cocok dengan filosofi LVG gw rasa belum sejauh itu alasan nya
Klo menurutku ada perbedaan besar antara gaya main Van Gaal dan tipikal main D Maria. Van Gaal ingin timnya menjaga ball possession sambil mencari celah. Karena itu ball possession United hampir pasti unggul. Jumlah passing pun tinggi. Sedangkan Di Maria tipikal pemain cepat. Sering kali nggak nyaman klo main passing dan bola gampang kerebut. Pas awal2 musim pas main 442 diamond United cenderung maen cepat dan Di Maria klop disana. Tapi secara permainan nggak memuaskan Van Gaal karena form tim nggak stabil 90 menit. Van Gaal mulai pakai 4141 di paruh kedua musim hingga akhir. Dan disaat itu Di Maria udah nggak masuk starter dengan berbagai alasan.

Klo kata meneer sih, "He can't say he's had a marvellous season here. You have to adapt to our philosophy and that's also difficult for him, probably. Di Maria has to adapt to the English rhythm of the game. That's a high standard and a big difference with other countries.".
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Harga beli < Harga jual (gak sampe semusim) = Flop?
Betulll gan, ane iseng tracking soal kasus ini, sekarang di Madrid sana lagi terkenal dengan hashtag"White Collar-Theft" penggambaran ungkapan terimakasih fans yang tahun lalu kecewa berat karena keputusan Florentino Perez menjual Di Maria dengan harga £59.7m yang ternyata sekarang ini jadi terlihat sangat amat beneerrr! dan sempat kepoin jg beberapa akun socmed, beberapa fans Madrid meretweet hal yang sama :
"Di Maria adalah penjualan terbaik dalam sejarah klub, tidak diragukan lagi."
Haahhaha mayan nyesek sih..
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Klo kata meneer sih, "He can't say he's had a marvellous season here. You have to adapt to our philosophy and that's also difficult for him, probably. Di Maria has to adapt to the English rhythm of the game. That's a high standard and a big difference with other countries.".
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Tipikal bek2 PL tidak gampang dilewati kalo mereka sudah mengenal gaya permainan penyerang lawan, CR nya aja di match terakhir di United dribble nya sudah sering kebaca dan gagal melewati pemain lawan..
Nah masalah DI Maria diawal dia main mudah bagi nya mengecoh bek2 lawan, tapi setelah itu permainan cepat nya terbaca dan dia ngga punya solusi tentang itu..

Yup Di Maria pemain cepat tapi dia bukan cepat seperti Vale, Remy, Chica atau pemain2 cepat PL yang lain nya, Di Maria selain cepat dia jga punya skill dribble dan passing akurasi diatas rata2, nah kalo kita bicara soal taktik tentu kriteria seperti itu sangat dibutuhkan LVG, tapi fakta nya Di Maria tidak bisa memaksimalkan potensi nya setelah paruh musim

Jadi kesimpulan nya tetap aja masalah di maria adalah karena skill individu nya sendiri yang ngga maksimal dan terlalu banyak kesaalahan ketika berhadapan dengan lini pertahanan PL
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Tipikal bek2 PL tidak gampang dilewati kalo mereka sudah mengenal gaya permainan penyerang lawan, CR nya aja di match terakhir di United dribble nya sudah sering kebaca dan gagal melewati pemain lawan..
Nah masalah DI Maria diawal dia main mudah bagi nya mengecoh bek2 lawan, tapi setelah itu permainan cepat nya terbaca dan dia ngga punya solusi tentang itu..

Yup Di Maria pemain cepat tapi dia bukan cepat seperti Vale, Remy, Chica atau pemain2 cepat PL yang lain nya, Di Maria selain cepat dia jga punya skill dribble dan passing akurasi diatas rata2, nah kalo kita bicara soal taktik tentu kriteria seperti itu sangat dibutuhkan LVG, tapi fakta nya Di Maria tidak bisa memaksimalkan potensi nya setelah paruh musim

Jadi kesimpulan nya tetap aja masalah di maria adalah karena skill individu nya sendiri yang ngga maksimal dan terlalu banyak kesaalahan ketika berhadapan dengan lini pertahanan PL
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Klo kata meneer sih, "He can't say he's had a marvellous season here. You have to adapt to our philosophy and that's also difficult for him, probably. Di Maria has to adapt to the English rhythm of the game. That's a high standard and a big difference with other countries.".
Nggak hanya adaptasi sama BPL, tapi adaptasi sama filosofi Van Gaal juga.
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Suporter psg mulai mengaggap di maria sbg flop. Mereka mengeluhkan uang yg digelontorkn utk boyong di maria n sejauh ini yg bersangkutan br cetak 3 gol. Suporter psg lalu membandingkan dgn martial yg dibeli pake uang penjualan di maria n sdh mencetak 5 gol sejauh ini.
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Suporter psg mulai mengaggap di maria sbg flop. Mereka mengeluhkan uang yg digelontorkn utk boyong di maria n sejauh ini yg bersangkutan br cetak 3 gol. Suporter psg lalu membandingkan dgn martial yg dibeli pake uang penjualan di maria n sdh mencetak 5 gol sejauh ini.
IMHO EPL > dari La Liga jadi pantaslah seorang pemain butuh ekstra waktu utk beradaptasi. Butuh keajaiban macam Martial bahkan RvN dulu yang langsung bisa beradaptasi. Jadi soal AMD7 saya akan bilang dia flop dengan alasan utama nyerah duluan bukan karena performanya. Tohh dengan performanya di United musim lalu ia koleksi assist paling banyak dibanding pemain United lainnya.

Soal ADM di PSG, saya ga peduli lagi. Bukan fansnya ADM juga bukan fans PSG, siapa suruh fans PSG masang ekspektasi tinggi ke pemain yang gagal bersinar di EPL.
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