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Take-on tuh merebut bola ya? 100% itu 1 untuk 1, 2 untuk 2 atau 10 untuk 10? Klo dari whoscrored.com sih 1x tekel sukses, tidak ada interception, clearance, block dan foul. Dibandingkan saMa Young yang 2 interception dan 2 clearance. Itu statistik sih, klo aku lihat puas defence ya kurang.

Klo statistik pass dll emang oke. Statistik yang pas buat nyerang. Klo dia masih AM sih untuk bertahan masih ada CM yang melapis langsung, tapi dia musti sadar (fans juga musti nerima) klo dia bukan AM lagi tapi AML atau LW. Jadi defence lebih dituntut untuk melapis LB. Yupz, ujian selajutnya ya lawan city, gimana Kagawa (+Evra) vs Silva/Navas + Zabaleta. Menyerang sih spesial, bertahan yang musti ditingkatkan. IMO...
Klo gw liat tadi malah sih Moyes pake formasi 4-2-3-1 dimana duo winger lebih diposisikan buat cutting inside, sementara duo fullback stay deep dan diintruksikan lebih ke defence aja, makanya sangat jarang mereka over lapping, dan dou winger juga jarang back up LB ato RB..


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Mau cutting inside mau nggak tetep pas bertahan ya semua ikut bertahan. Young aja terlihat ngotot pas bertahan bantu Rafael. Udah bagian tugas semua pemaen buat ikut bertahan bantu lini belakang. Klo buat urusan nyerang sih emang oke, hanya emang pas bertahan yang sih kurang.
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Mau cutting inside mau nggak tetep pas bertahan ya semua ikut bertahan. Young aja terlihat ngotot pas bertahan bantu Rafael. Udah bagian tugas semua pemaen buat ikut bertahan bantu lini belakang. Klo buat urusan nyerang sih emang oke, hanya emang pas bertahan yang sih kurang.
Setahu gw sih kalo pola yg gw bilang diatas memang begitu, dimana intensitas fullback bantu winger begitu juga sebaliknya winger bantu fullback bertahan gak sebanyak ketika pake pola winger melebar, job desc nya seperti itu, link up winger lebih banyak ke pemain tengah ketimbang fullback
Soal ikut bertahan ato tidak, Kagawa memang ditugaskan buat orang pertama yg menerima bola counter attack ketika transisi defence to offence, gw rasa itu udah bagian dari strategy..
Kelemahan nya disitu, fullback lebih repot bertahan..
Kelebihan nya winger lebih kreatif tanpa harus disupport fullback..
Penerapan lebih mirip ke 4-3-3 barc ato bisa juga pola 4-3-3 nya Indra Syafri

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Setahu gw sih kalo pola yg gw bilang diatas memang begitu, dimana intensitas fullback bantu winger begitu juga sebaliknya winger bantu fullback bertahan gak sebanyak ketika pake pola winger melebar, job desc nya seperti itu, link up winger lebih banyak ke pemain tengah ketimbang fullback
Soal ikut bertahan ato tidak, Kagawa memang ditugaskan buat orang pertama yg menerima bola counter attack ketika transisi defence to offence, gw rasa itu udah bagian dari strategy..
Kelemahan nya disitu, fullback lebih repot bertahan..
Kelebihan nya winger lebih kreatif tanpa harus disupport fullback..
Penerapan lebih mirip ke 4-3-3 barc ato bisa juga pola 4-3-3 nya Indra Syafri

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Emang 4-3-3 atau 4-2-3-1 jadi nggak ada pemaen yang mbantu FB pas bertahan? Kasihan dong. Kayaknya klo aku lihat Liverpool, Arsenal nggak gitu deh. Karena itu aku suka gaya tim itu klo bertahan, semua pemaen mbantu bertahan. Pertahanan terlihat rapat.
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Emang 4-3-3 atau 4-2-3-1 jadi nggak ada pemaen yang mbantu FB pas bertahan? Kasihan dong. Kayaknya klo aku lihat Liverpool, Arsenal nggak gitu deh. Karena itu aku suka gaya tim itu klo bertahan, semua pemaen mbantu bertahan. Pertahanan terlihat rapat.
Soal bantu FB pasti adalah, pemain tengah masih bisa buat support FB, tapi klo dari winger, intesitas nya lebih sedikit..
Soal Pool ama Arsenal gw gak tahu betul gimana pola defense nya..
Tapi klo pas ngalahin kita, Pool defense nya banyak disupport dari lini tengah, Gerrard ama Allen sibuka intercept/cover kiri kanan tergantung dimana zona strong side dan weak side nya

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Soal bantu FB pasti adalah, pemain tengah masih bisa buat support FB, tapi klo dari winger, intesitas nya lebih sedikit..
Soal Pool ama Arsenal gw gak tahu betul gimana pola defense nya..
Tapi klo pas ngalahin kita, Pool defense nya banyak disupport dari lini tengah, Gerrard ama Allen sibuka intercept/cover kiri kanan tergantung dimana zona strong side dan weak side nya

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Klo pas vs Liverpool sih, Henderson dan Allen ngelapis Johnson dan Flanagan di sayap. Stur, Sua, Ster juga ikut defence dengan pressing lawan.
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Sedikit pandangan pribadi dari pertandingan semalam

Yup patut disukuri united menang semalam, tp masih bnyak kekurangan jg, over all lini tengah kita emang kalah duel dgn WHU semalam, yg saya lihat emang WHU memenangkan banyak duel fisik, Felli (luar biasa semalam) & Fletch(biarpun mengontrol bola dgn sangat baik) terlalu bnyak memberikan ruang bagi pemain WHU.

Kagawa (mau jadi AML/LMF/LFW) saya rasa kurang karena dpt dilihat sprint pendek dia jg kurang dan body ball dia jg kurang baik, Kagawa dan Mata memang memiliki visi bermain yg baik, tp untuk urusan bertahan mereka sangat kurang mereka dpt berperan dgn baik jika united memiliki seorang Holding midfild yg baek Carrick (DMF/masih pemain tengah terbaik united). Lebih enak dilihat jika Welbo yg mengisi lMF (vs olympiacos bermain baik dlm membantu evra berthan, body balance, holding ball cukup baik).

Untuk pertandingan melawan city semoga lini tengah mampu memenangkan duel, lini tengah menjadi kunci permainan untuk pertandingan besok. Salam #GGMU
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M.E.N.A.N.G



gw shock

liat carrick jadi bek,langsung mikir yang lain pada kemana,ternyata smaling dan evans belum fit yak..

pertama kali dalam sejarah si GeniusOne berani memakai kedua fantasistanya..

walopun link up play mereka belum mulus2 amat tapi udah ada saling pengertian,ga bisa dibayangkan kalo mereka lebih sering main bareng,what a football orgasm..

back to the match:
Gol pertama karena kejeniusan roo dalam melihat peluang,and what a volley..
Gol kedua menurut gw sih karena hoki dan positioning roo yang pas..

Jadi kedua gol bukan dari build up play yang bagus tapi dari peluang2 yang kemarin yang didapat udah dari build up play yang bagus,cuma ga gol aja..oohhh what a sexy football..mereka butuh jam terbang bareng lebih lama..

babak pertama mengkhawatirkan,big sam bener2 mengeksploitasi pertahanan dengan crossing,carroll kalo ada crossing bertenaga banget eh disenggol dikit langsung jatuh,ya elaahh..banci aja ga segampang itu jatohnya tong

udah mikir babak kedua ni big sam akan lebih merajalela,eh ternyata mereka melempem

dengan stok pemain dan jadwal yang padat menurut gw si GeniusOne tepat memakai formasi ini,walopun gw ngerasa sayap level dewa #18 entah apa fungsinya di lapangan..please jangan bilang 2 gol karena kontribusinya,gol pertama karena kejeniusan roo,gol kedua bek WHU salah antisipasi..gaya crossingnya sama kaya valencia,yang penting bola ke kotak penalti,ga penting siapa yang dapet udah dapet bola gocak gocek balikin lagi bolanya ke belakang,what the hell...

strategi yang tepat diterapkan si GeniusOne,karena carrick dijadiin CB maka dia harus di back up,ketika bertahan kribo akan langsung bantu pertahanan dan bantu buang bola,ketika menyerang maka kribo akan bantu mata-kagawa dan rooney dan untuk ngakalin biar ga dicounter maka fletchinho ditaro di tengah di depan bek dan ga boleh ikut bantu penyerangan,antitesis yang bagus untuk menetralisir counter WHU..

overall this motm belong to you moyesiah..you deserved it..

berhubung kagawa udah maen FT,maka pas lawan city diperkirakan dia bench dan kemungkinan young/valencia yang akan main

padahal ya padahal..ya udahlah..
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padahal ya padahal..ya udahlah..


Ya gimana lagi. Yang dilawan kuat sedangkan Kagawa sih lemah klo bertahan. Nggak kebayang gimana sibuknya Evra klo didepan dia ada Kagawa padahal yang dilawan winger dan FB City. Jangan2 makin di ekspose tuh si Evra sama City. FBnya error, pemaen yang ngelapis juga nggak bagus2 amat buat bertahan.
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Ya gimana lagi. Yang dilawan kuat sedangkan Kagawa sih lemah klo bertahan. Nggak kebayang gimana sibuknya Evra klo didepan dia ada Kagawa padahal yang dilawan winger dan FB City. Jangan2 makin di ekspose tuh si Evra sama City. FBnya error, pemaen yang ngelapis juga nggak bagus2 amat buat bertahan.
ga tau juga sih ya,cuma dari statistik semalam defensenya mereka hampir sama,cuma unggul young sedikit..jadi kagawa ga lemah2 amat sih

cuma dari stat attacking jauh lebih bagus kagawa sih,cuma kalo emang fokusnya bertahan ya sudahlah,wong kita ga diunggulkan ini
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