[EPL] Manchester United 2 vs 2 Fulham

[theater of dream]

Originally Posted by tukang-las

soal 81 crossing(which means..itu strategi moyes) menurut om gmn??
FYI, di babak pertama aja United udah bikin 50an crossing dan ga ada yg berhasil...klo anda jadi manajer apa yg anda ingin tim lakukan setelah turun minum???

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nahhh....setidaknya kita sepakat dong ada kelebihan united saat ini selain sayap2 patahnya???

Total passing..


Succesful rate nya..

Disitu keliatan klo strategy Moyes walo gak bisa dibilang brilliant tapi lumayan bagus dan buktinya 2 gol di babak ke-2
- Ball possesion
- Create chances
- Number of passes successful
31 shot
13 out target
9 on target
9 block

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[tukang-las]

Originally Posted by theater of dream

Total passing..


Succesful rate nya..

Disitu keliatan klo strategy Moyes walo gak bisa dibilang brilliant tapi lumayan bagus dan buktinya 2 gol di babak ke-2
- Ball possesion
- Create chances
- Number of passes successful
31 shot
13 out target
9 on target
9 block

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2 gol itu ga murni hasil crossing lho...Assist dari Mata klo diliat2 malah seperti setengah shooting bukannya crossing..dan gol kedua justru didapet dr shot dr luar kotak..

[zudomiriku]

Manchester United 2-2 Fulham: Bent piles pressure on beleaguered boss Moyes with Fergie Time leveller for bottom club

Just when Manchester United thought it couldn’t get any worse, it got worse. This may not have been another defeat for David Moyes, but it felt like one.

It was just as numbing, just as demoralising and once again Moyes’s afternoon at Old Trafford ended with that dreadful, long walk from the dug-out to the tunnel in the corner.

Much more of this and the United manager will be asking them to move it a little bit closer. With the TV cameras following him every step of the way, those with ghoulish tendencies are able to stare straight into his soul.

Last gasp: Manchester United were less than a minute from victory when Darren Bent headed home to snatch a point for Fulham


Too late: David De Gea shows his disappointment while Wayne Rooney queries the time remaining


Plenty to ponder: David Moyes heads for the dressing-room after seeing United fail to win at home for the eighth time this season

This time, United took a point. But this was a game against the bottom team in the Barclays Premier League, a team beaten at home by Sheffield United from League One last week.

The statistics make remarkable reading. Eighty-one crosses by United — an OPTA record — and 75 per cent possession. United also had 31 shots. Nevertheless, they were 12 minutes from losing. Had it not been for a howling miss from Kieran Richardson in the first half, they would have been two goals down, too.

For Moyes this is a season that just will not get better. If United lose at Arsenal on Wednesday and resurgent Liverpool win at Fulham, the defending champions will be 12 points from the fourth Champions League spot that means everything in the modern age.

Moyes has spoken recently of luck and the fact United haven’t had much. However, United did have a little. Richardson will ask himself how he managed to miss from six yards with the score at 1-0 to Fulham. Michael Carrick’s goal, meanwhile, took a deflection.

The fact is that United are stuck in second gear this season simply because they continue to make dreadful mistakes, continue to rely far too much on stellar players like Wayne Rooney and continue to lack conviction in so much of their play. That has nothing to do with luck and everything to do with the mediocre football that has characterised their season.

Enough to make you cross: United attempted 81 crosses as they struggled to break Fulham down


Relief: Michael Carrick thought he had won it for Manchester United with his late goal


Level: Robin van Persie turned in from close range 11 minutes from time to make it 1-1

Certainly, this was a startling afternoon at Old Trafford. Fulham were, for the large part, pretty dreadful. Their manager Rene Meulensteen picked a rather peculiar team and they played in a peculiar way. Such was their desperation to defend, they seemed to forget that they were allowed to keep the ball, too.

Nevertheless, ultimately Meulensteen’s plan worked. Darren Bent’s 94th-minute goal gave them a point and they went home happy when, on another day, they might have lost by a handful.

Early on in the piece, there was little to suggest that United wouldn’t have things their way. They started positively enough, but then Fulham did something unexpected: they scored. Picking the ball up 35 yards from goal, Fulham midfielder Lewis Holtby found himself with options. Bravely, though, he chose the most ambitious one, floating a delicate pass into the path of Steve Sidwell. A side-foot finish on the volley gave Fulham the lead.

If United were not quite stunned then they were certainly surprised. Nobody had seen that coming. For the remaining 25 minutes of the first half, they flooded forward. Carrick fizzed a volley wide and was denied by goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg. Robin van Persie was denied by a defender’s body and then Nemanja Vidic thumped a header into the keeper’s midriff.

In the midst of all this, though, Fulham broke with stunning ease to carve out the best chance of the game. Fulham cleared a corner from their own six-yard line, allowing Muamer Tankovic to race the length of the field to play in Richardson to his left. It seemed as though Richardson couldn’t miss... but he did.

In some ways, that summed up United’s season. They looked vulnerable, compliant and slow. Vidic and Patrice Evra looked like they were running in cement as they tried to retreat. On United pushed, though, into the second half. The opening period saw them deliver 46 crosses and the pattern continued as the home team dominated.

Many of the deliveries lacked quality, it must be said. There were still enough that troubled Fulham, though, and it was peculiar that it took United until the 79th minute to find a way through.

Rooney was denied by Stekelenburg in the 55th minute, Fulham defender Dan Burn escaped with a handball in the penalty area before Carrick headed over from a corner.

Eventually, the dam broke and United scored twice in two minutes. Momentarily, it was just like the old days.

Van Persie was first to strike, shovelling Juan Mata’s low cross in from close range. Then, as the volume rose, Carrick found the corner from the edge of the penalty area via a deflection off substitute Scott Parker.

Team goal: The Match Zone graphic shows the intricacy of Sidwell's goal


Bored? Sir Alex Ferguson doesn't look too impressed as he is joined by Simply Red singer Mick Hucknall

Moyes celebrated that goal like a golfer who had holed from 40 feet on the 18th. That in itself spoke volumes for his current state of mind.

Certainly the game looked over, but there was time for more drama. Van Persie spurned a chance to score the third and then Fulham broke. Vidic’s defensive header was a poor one, Richardson’s shot was palmed into the air by David de Gea and Bent scored from a yard.

Afterwards, Moyes put on a brave face. What other alternative is there?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2554064/Manchester-United-2-Fulham-2-Match-report-Bent-piles-pressure-Moyes-gasp-leveller-bottom-club.html

[tukang-las]

buat om @ToD coba cek stat yg dibawa om troy

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Ok, ane tanggapi tapi bukan anti Moyes tapi strategi Moyes yang asli miskin banget!

Babak pertama:

Total dengan babak kedua:

[SPOILER]
Overal statistic:

dan ulasannya yg ini:

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Minggu ini tim- tim besar yang punya winger lebih bagus catatan crossingnya "hanya":

Munich: 11 <-- They have Robben,Ribery, Rafinha, Alaba & Lahm.
A Madrid: 17 <-- Arda Turan dkk.
R Madrid: 19 <-- Di Maria, Ronaldo, Bale, Marcello.
Chelsea: 19 <-- Hazard, Willian, Ivanovic, Azpili....
Juve: 21 <-- They dont have winger but have Pirlo & Vidal.
Dortmund: 24 <-- Bender, Reus, Friedrich & Kehl
City: 39 <-- Navas, Silva, Zabaleta & Clichy.
United: 82!!!!!! you know who.

Valencia: 2 times try, 2 failed crossing in to the box.
Januzaj: 13 times try, 7 failed crossing in to the box.
Young: 16 times failed crossing in to the box.
Mata: 7 times failed crossing in to the box. 4 times create chances, 1 assist.
Rafael: 7 times failed crossing in to the box.
Evra: 10 times failed crossing in to the box. 4 times create chances

bisa dilihat??? 81 kali crossing cuma 18 yg berhasil atau cuma 22%?!?!?
pilihannya seharusnya cuma 1 saat itu...yup..ganti strategi...IMO

[theater of dream]

Originally Posted by tukang-las

2 gol itu ga murni hasil crossing lho...Assist dari Mata klo diliat2 malah seperti setengah shooting bukannya crossing..dan gol kedua justru didapet dr shot dr luar kotak..

Set up serangan nya mulai dari crossing yg berbuah kemelut di area penalty Fulham

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[tukang-las]

Originally Posted by theater of dream

Set up serangan nya mulai dari crossing yg berbuah kemelut di area penalty Fulham

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berarti United akan pake taktik yg sama lawan arsenal nih menurut ente??

jadi seakan menihilkan kelebihan lain yg United punya saat ini??

[theater of dream]

Originally Posted by tukang-las

berarti United akan pake taktik yg sama lawan arsenal nih menurut ente??

jadi seakan menihilkan kelebihan lain yg United punya saat ini??

Liat nanti, ntr juga dibahas di sebelah

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[Shi no Gekai]

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Taktiknya kancut!!

Kayak abis nonton bola tahun 1990an.

Moyes, lu punya Mata, Evra, Rafael, Young, Januzaj melawan tim jurukunci yang sudah kejebolan lebih dari lima puluh gol dan lu suruh pemain2 sayap lu maen dari luar kotak penalti?

Bahkan RVP, Rooney dan Chicharito hanya berdiri di tengah kotak penalti menunggu bola. Gak ada penertasi ke dalam kotak penalti lawan baik dari sayap maupun dari tengah
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Januzaj, Young, Mata, bahkan Evra dan Rafael, semua ngirim bola dari luar kotak penalti, gak ada yang menusuk ke dalam! Gak ada yang coba cari shoot dari dalam kotak penalti! Perintah dari pelatih busuk! Taktik gak jelas!

Lu punya pemain2 lincah dan kreatif yang lu matikan kebebasannya dan hanya boleh maen di sisi kiri dan kanan, di luar kotak penalti. Buat apa beli Mata mahal2 kalo cuma disuruh2 kirim umpan jauh dari luar kotak penalti dan gak boleh menusuk ke dalam kotak penalti? Buat yang coba nyalahin Juan Mata, lu ke laut aja. Ini pemain bisa berbuat lebih banyak klo gak dapat Perintah dari pelatih busuk! Taktik gak jelas!

Bahkan sepanjang 90 menit, 90% lebih aliran bola united ada di sisi kiri dan kanan. Bahkan belum lewat setengah lapangan sudah ada di sisi kiri dan kanan! Apa gunanya lapangan bola segede2 bagong klo yang dieksplorasi cuma sayap dan area tengah kotak penalti!!

Beruntung kita punya RVP dan Carrick. Gak beruntung pengatur taktiknya kucrut!! United bisa menang lebih dari 2 gol klo pemain2 dibebaskan bermain ke tengah, penertasi ke dalam kotak penalti dan gak terpaku dari sayap!

nice review bro..

di twiter tadi malam rame ngebandingin moyes dan pep karena hanya punya 1 strategi tapi hasilnya berbeda hehehehehe...

sebagai orang awam kalo 1 strategi ga berhasil ya coba ganti ke strategi lainnya,ketika lu ngandelin crossing tapi pemaen lawan numpuk di kotak penalti lu ngarepin apa? mereka blunder biar sapa tau dari 82 crossing ada 1 ato 2 yang bisa jadi gol..tapi berhubung pelatih tercinta ini hanya punya 1 strategi ya udah mau diapain lagi,berarti pemaennya yang ga sesuai standard dia,mending jual dah gt beli luca toni, charisteas, jan koller nah baru deh strategi crossing kita maut..

#ZonaMemori

#Zona90an

gw udah keabisan kata2 untuk pelatih ini,kejeniusannya jauh diatas otak manusia//

[Shi no Gekai]

Originally Posted by tukang-las

berarti United akan pake taktik yg sama lawan arsenal nih menurut ente??

jadi seakan menihilkan kelebihan lain yg United punya saat ini??

maaf masbro..

di mata pelatih kita kelebihan united adalah crossing..mungkin dia punya kolekis lengkap CD class 92 dan the treble jadi kelebihan united disitu

[tukang-las]

Originally Posted by Shi no Gekai

nice review bro..

di twiter tadi malam rame ngebandingin moyes dan pep karena hanya punya 1 strategi tapi hasilnya berbeda hehehehehe...

sebagai orang awam kalo 1 strategi ga berhasil ya coba ganti ke strategi lainnya,ketika lu ngandelin crossing tapi pemaen lawan numpuk di kotak penalti lu ngarepin apa? mereka blunder biar sapa tau dari 82 crossing ada 1 ato 2 yang bisa jadi gol..tapi berhubung pelatih tercinta ini hanya punya 1 strategi ya udah mau diapain lagi,berarti pemaennya yang ga sesuai standard dia,mending jual dah gt beli luca toni, charisteas, jan koller nah baru deh strategi crossing kita maut..

#ZonaMemori

#Zona90an

gw udah keabisan kata2 untuk pelatih ini,kejeniusannya jauh diatas otak manusia//

pelatih jenius...