[UCL] Manchester United 1 vs 1 Bayern Munchen, Quarter Final - 1st leg

[J. A. Adji]

Originally Posted by Victory

Bagaimana reaksi Anda terhadap hasil semalam?

A. (kalo menang-bertahan) Main di kandang kok mala bertahan, ga incer menang apa?! Ini Manchester United loh, masa kita niru Chelsea/Mourinho dalam memenangkan pertandingan. Ini bukan caranya United! #MoyesOut

B. (kalo kalah/seri-bertahan) Udah parkir bus, ga bisa nyerang, ga bisa bertahan juga, ga bisa menang, golnya lewat set piece pula. Kurang banyak tuh busnya, harusnya parkir tank sekalian. Selama 90 menit taktiknya cuma 1, bertahan, gagal pula. #MoyesOut

C. (kalo kalah-menyerang) Tolol. Udah tahu lawan Bayern, sang juara Bundesliga di bulan Maret! mala maen terbuka. habislah dibombardir lawan. Ga belajar dari sebelum2nya apa?! #MoyesOut

D. (kalo menang-menyerang)

Loh bukannya kemarin waktu menang lawan Olimpiakos, West ham dan Aston Villa banyak yang memuji permainan menyerang MU ya?
Gak sedikit juga yang bilang taktik menyerang ala Moyes ini menunjukan perkembangan permainan MU. Dan dengan taktik itu Moyes layak melatih MU.

Lalu kenapa taktik yang bisa menghasilkan banyak gol itu gak dicoba lawan munchen di kandang sendiri saat kita memang memerlukan banyak gol? Emmmm... Moyes kurang pede atau gimana?

Kirain kemenangan lawan olimpiakos, west ham dan aston villa bisa dijadiin tolak ukur kehebatan permainan menyerang MU seperti kata banyak orang di forum ini. Ternyata karena lawannya itu aja ya, jadi keliatan hebatnnya. Giliran lawan tim seperti Bayern Munchen, parkir bis deh.

Kesimpulan, sampai hari ini Moyes masih belum mampu menunjukan superioritas bahkan keberanian ketika berhadapan dengan tim2 papan atas baik di BPL ataupun liga Champion. Jadi selamat berkhayal buat yang masih yakin Moyes akan seperti Sir Alex

[zudomiriku]

PLAYER RATINGS: Welbeck is United's star as Robben gives Moyes' men the runaround

Bayern Munich fought back to claim a 1-1 draw against Manchester United in the Champions League quarter-final first leg after Nemanja Vidic had earlier headed the hosts in front. CHRIS WHEELER gives his ratings from Old Trafford.

MANCHESTER UNITED

David De Gea - 6

Great diving save to deny Robben in first half and couldn't be faulted for the equaliser.


Down low: Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea dives to his right to make a save

Phil Jones - 6.5

Got off to a torrid start against Ribery but grew into the game and imposed himself.

Alexander Buttner - 6

Had his hands full against fellow Dutchman Robben and survived handball claim.

Michael Carrick - 6.5

Some excellent passes but struggled to keep track of Bayern's roving midfield.

Rio Ferdinand - 6.5

Rose to the occasion and timely interceptions to deny Mueller in particular.


Team orders: Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand (right) receives instructions from David Moyes

Nemanja Vidic - 7

Captain's performance in his second game in four days after injury, and came up with the goal.

Marouane Fellaini - 4.5

Looked out of his depth at times and didn't pick up his man for the equaliser

Ryan Giggs - 5

Asking too much to have same impact as Olympiacos win and subbed at half-time


Rising high: Nemanja Vidic scores with a header to give United the lead at Old Trafford

Wayne Rooney - 6.5

Best bet for a creative spark and supplied corner for Vidic's goal.

Antonio Valencia - 6

Lively down the right. Harshly booked but then lucky to escape a red.

Danny Welbeck - 7.5

Guilty of wasting best chance of the first half but ran Martinez ragged.


Big chance: Danny Welbeck (centre) tries to chip the ball into the net but Manuel Neuer gets a hand to it

Substitutes

Ashley Young (on for Buttner 74mins) - 6
Shinji Kagawa (on for Giggs 46mins) - 6

MANAGER: David Moyes – 7

Had to try and contain Bayern and it nearly resulted in a famous victory.

BAYERN MUNICH

Manuel Neuer - 7

Crucial save from Welbeck but could do little about Vidic's goal from a corner.

Rafinha - 6.5

Almost caught out dithering early on but settled well after that.

David Alaba - 6.5

Spent as much time in United box as his own but made valuable blocks on Valencia and Rooney.

Bastian Schweinsteiger - 7

Got forward to snatch a crucial away goal but sent off late on for second yellow card

Javi Martinez - 4.5

Played out of position at centre-back and it looked like it at times.

Jerome Boateng - 5.5

Former City defender seemed vulnerable whenever United threatened.

Arjen Robben - 8

An old adversary but still giving United the runaround after all these years.

Philipp Lahm - 6

He has prospered in a midfield role this season but was a little less effective here.

Thomas Mueller - 6

Didn't have as many chances as he might have expected and subbed.

Toni Kroos - 6

United target made a lot of passes without ever really opening them up.

Franck Ribery - 6.5

Fast out of the blocks but faded slightly as game progressed.

Substitutes

Mario Mandzukic (on for Mueller 63) - 6
Mario Goetze (on for Kroos 74) - 6

MANAGER: Pep Guardiola – 6

His European champions did not dominate to the extent many expected.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2594550/PLAYER-RATINGS-Old-foe-Robben-gives-United-runaround-Old-Trafford.html

[theater of dream]

Originally Posted by zudomiriku

PLAYER RATINGS: Welbeck is United's star as Robben gives Moyes' men the runaround

Bayern Munich fought back to claim a 1-1 draw against Manchester United in the Champions League quarter-final first leg after Nemanja Vidic had earlier headed the hosts in front. CHRIS WHEELER gives his ratings from Old Trafford.

MANCHESTER UNITED

David De Gea - 6

Great diving save to deny Robben in first half and couldn't be faulted for the equaliser.


Down low: Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea dives to his right to make a save

Phil Jones - 6.5

Got off to a torrid start against Ribery but grew into the game and imposed himself.

Alexander Buttner - 6

Had his hands full against fellow Dutchman Robben and survived handball claim.

Michael Carrick - 6.5

Some excellent passes but struggled to keep track of Bayern's roving midfield.

Rio Ferdinand - 6.5

Rose to the occasion and timely interceptions to deny Mueller in particular.


Team orders: Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand (right) receives instructions from David Moyes

Nemanja Vidic - 7

Captain's performance in his second game in four days after injury, and came up with the goal.

Marouane Fellaini - 4.5

Looked out of his depth at times and didn't pick up his man for the equaliser

Ryan Giggs - 5

Asking too much to have same impact as Olympiacos win and subbed at half-time


Rising high: Nemanja Vidic scores with a header to give United the lead at Old Trafford

Wayne Rooney - 6.5

Best bet for a creative spark and supplied corner for Vidic's goal.

Antonio Valencia - 6

Lively down the right. Harshly booked but then lucky to escape a red.

Danny Welbeck - 7.5

Guilty of wasting best chance of the first half but ran Martinez ragged.


Big chance: Danny Welbeck (centre) tries to chip the ball into the net but Manuel Neuer gets a hand to it

Substitutes

Ashley Young (on for Buttner 74mins) - 6
Shinji Kagawa (on for Giggs 46mins) - 6

MANAGER: David Moyes – 7

Had to try and contain Bayern and it nearly resulted in a famous victory.

BAYERN MUNICH

Manuel Neuer - 7

Crucial save from Welbeck but could do little about Vidic's goal from a corner.

Rafinha - 6.5

Almost caught out dithering early on but settled well after that.

David Alaba - 6.5

Spent as much time in United box as his own but made valuable blocks on Valencia and Rooney.

Bastian Schweinsteiger - 7

Got forward to snatch a crucial away goal but sent off late on for second yellow card

Javi Martinez - 4.5

Played out of position at centre-back and it looked like it at times.

Jerome Boateng - 5.5

Former City defender seemed vulnerable whenever United threatened.

Arjen Robben - 8

An old adversary but still giving United the runaround after all these years.

Philipp Lahm - 6

He has prospered in a midfield role this season but was a little less effective here.

Thomas Mueller - 6

Didn't have as many chances as he might have expected and subbed.

Toni Kroos - 6

United target made a lot of passes without ever really opening them up.

Franck Ribery - 6.5

Fast out of the blocks but faded slightly as game progressed.

Substitutes

Mario Mandzukic (on for Mueller 63) - 6
Mario Goetze (on for Kroos 74) - 6

MANAGER: Pep Guardiola – 6

His European champions did not dominate to the extent many expected.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2594550/PLAYER-RATINGS-Old-foe-Robben-gives-United-runaround-Old-Trafford.html

Moyes tactic > Pep tactic lasy night..
what do you think @J. A. Adji; ?

[fredrian.seven]

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Loh bukannya kemarin waktu menang lawan Olimpiakos, West ham dan Aston Villa banyak yang memuji permainan menyerang MU ya?
Gak sedikit juga yang bilang taktik menyerang ala Moyes ini menunjukan perkembangan permainan MU. Dan dengan taktik itu Moyes layak melatih MU.

Lalu kenapa taktik yang bisa menghasilkan banyak gol itu gak dicoba lawan munchen di kandang sendiri saat kita memang memerlukan banyak gol? Emmmm... Moyes kurang pede atau gimana?

Kirain kemenangan lawan olimpiakos, west ham dan aston villa bisa dijadiin tolak ukur kehebatan permainan menyerang MU seperti kata banyak orang di forum ini. Ternyata karena lawannya itu aja ya, jadi keliatan hebatnnya. Giliran lawan tim seperti Bayern Munchen, parkir bis deh.

Kesimpulan, sampai hari ini Moyes masih belum mampu menunjukan superioritas bahkan keberanian ketika berhadapan dengan tim2 papan atas baik di BPL ataupun liga Champion. Jadi selamat berkhayal buat yang masih yakin Moyes akan seperti Sir Alex

Jadi inget Man City vs Man Utd jaman Fergie musim 2011/2012. Skor akhir 1-0 (kompany). Sebelum pertandingan itu United di puncak klasmen dalam posisi butuh poin buat menjaga jarak sama City. Eh ternyata Fergie maen bertahan (seingatku tanpa ada satupun shot on target). Akhirnya United kalah dan City mengambil posisi puncak dan di akhir musim akhirnya juara. Kenapa saat itu Fergie bermain bertahan ya? Kurang pede atau gimana?

Mourinho juga pada saat big match sering pake strategi bertahan dan ngandalkan serangan balik. Setahuku... Kira2 kenapa ya?

[fredrian.seven]

Originally Posted by theater of dream

Moyes tactic > Pep tactic lasy night..
what do you think @J. A. Adji; ?

David Moyes' simple tactic helps Manchester United match Bayern

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/apr/01/manchester-united-bayern-munich

Pep Guardiola packs his midfield but David Moyes goes retro for an old-fashioned British performance which worked

Midfield? Who needs a midfield anyway? In fact who needs the ball at all? For 66 minutes at Old Trafford it looked as though David Moyes might have mustered one of the more defiantly retro tactical triumphs of recent years. On a night that began slowly but built to a second-half barrage of rolling noise, Manchester United produced an intriguingly old-school performance of condensed, fast-breaking, midfield-bypassing football, the kind of football that might have come served up drizzled with horseradish and spritzed with gravy and labelled modern British with a twist.

Bayern remain favourites in this tie after Bastian Schweinsteiger's equaliser cancelled out United's opening goal, a sublime, twisting header from by Nemanja Vidic from a corner. Plus there will be those who dismiss this as familiar narrow-horizon tactical territory for Moyes, an Everton rehash on the big stage as his straight-lines team, complete with obdurate Belgian ball-shield, spoiled against opponents with more interest in passing the ball. Bayern were effectively spiked for long periods in a tight but oddly lopsided match, a meeting of pass-and-move and hit-and-run that leaves United with some hope in Bavaria.

As Bayern kicked off on a lovely clear crisp Manchester evening and immediately set about shuttling the ball among themselves it was already clear how this match was likely to go. United adopted a kind of guerilla-football approach, giving the opposition what they are geared up to take – territory, possession – in order to strike from behind the lines of a staged retreat.

This tie was always likely to hinge on how exactly United chose to counter Bayern's overwhelming, almost obsessional strength in midfield in the Jupp-Pep era, a process that has only accelerated under a manager who famously announced "I love midfielders" and whose teams are testament to this, one of football's great, if rather schmaltzy, modern love affairs.

Guardiola will never cede the ground here. He is the master of one-upmanship: you pick five in midfield, he'll pick six. This is a man whose midfields have midfields: midfields within midfields, lines between the lines.

This was the challenge Bayern posed at Old Trafford, a team so well-drilled in their passing and compressing of the game into one central swathe that at times playing them must feel a bit like being jostled to death on a tennis court by at least 20 scurrying, little, short-passing midfield generals.

It is exactly the kind of high-stakes tactical riddle many had expected Moyes to falter over. But he had a plan. And it worked. For a while, at least, before its basic limitations – mainly the almost complete concession of the ball in the first 70 minutes – began to nag at the edges. Guardiola picked seven midfielders in all, one of them, Javi Martínez, in defence, another a converted full-back.

Moyes replied by allowing his condensed midfield-five simply to back off. With Wayne Rooney the extra man when Bayern had the ball (unless stated otherwise, Bayern always had the ball) this left Danny Welbeck a lone but significant central striker in what was for a while a fancified game of kick-and-rush.

It is a tactic that has sometimes worked against Guardiola teams, the condensed swarming midfield treated not as a strength but a weakness, a high defensive line offering space beyond. Here Ryan Giggs played his first diagonal pass over the top for Welbeck in the opening minute, and Welbeck even had the ball in the net moments later but the goal was disallowed – a little limply; this is a gymnastic, contact sport – for a high boot in the buildup.

Steadily the Bayern midfield began to thrum through the high gears as Philipp Lahm, Schweinsteiger and Toni Kroos shuttled the ball between them with the usual upright muscular deftness, but Moyes' tactics of deep resistance and pace on the break created a kind of managed stasis. At times, as Bayern took 80% possession of the ball in the opening quarter of the match, this all seemed at times a little too cowed and dutiful for the club of footballing dreams.

It worked well enough. United began to strike from behind their guard, their earliest concerted attacks coming when Marouane Fellaini stationed himself briefly in that Everton-style bruiser-trequartista position, shielding and nudging and holding up the ball while Jérôme Boateng flailed at his back. At the same time Bayern's condensing of the play looked bizarrely high-risk as Welbeck had the beating of both central defenders for speed. With half-time approaching United had the clearest chance, Welbeck running on to Rooney's through pass but finding Manuel Neuer equal to his attempted dink. There is a time to dink. This was not it.

Five minutes after half-time, midfield still swamped, abandoned, given up to the surging tides, United took the lead. Rooney's left-wing corner found Vidic seeming to levitate above the Bayern defence in order to plant a genuinely thrilling set-piece header into the far corner. The lead lasted just eight minutes as Bayern's possession finally paid off with a lovely goal created via another moment of old-school aerial ball, Mario Mandzukic heading down for Schweinsteiger to finish beautifully. Advantage Bayern, but Moyes will take a little retro acclaim, and even some confidence, as United began to discover some midfield control of their own in the dying minutes.

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Bertahan bukan berarti nggak berani atau nggak pede. Bisa jadi emang taktiknya mancing lawan. Klo berhasil ya bisa jadi dibilang taktik berhasil, klo gagal ya bisa dibilang pengecut. Sama aja klo taktik nyerang, berhasil yang dibilang sukses dan klo gagal dibilang sembrono. Tinggal bagaimana yang ngenilai memutarbalikkan opini.

[goodfron]

kalo' pengin contoh tim yang gak pernah berubah taktiknya siapapun lawannya silahkan contoh Arsenal.. dan tau sendiri hasilnya.

[Victory]

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Loh bukannya kemarin waktu menang lawan Olimpiakos, West ham dan Aston Villa banyak yang memuji permainan menyerang MU ya?

Gak sedikit juga yang bilang taktik menyerang ala Moyes ini menunjukan perkembangan permainan MU. Dan dengan taktik itu Moyes layak melatih MU.

apakah gw termasuk di bagian yg biru itu? seinget gw, gw ga pernah bilang begitu loh

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Lalu kenapa taktik yang bisa menghasilkan banyak gol itu gak dicoba lawan munchen di kandang sendiri saat kita memang memerlukan banyak gol? Emmmm... Moyes kurang pede atau gimana?

Kirain kemenangan lawan olimpiakos, west ham dan aston villa bisa dijadiin tolak ukur kehebatan permainan menyerang MU seperti kata banyak orang di forum ini. Ternyata karena lawannya itu aja ya, jadi keliatan hebatnnya. Giliran lawan tim seperti Bayern Munchen, parkir bis deh.

Kesimpulan, sampai hari ini Moyes masih belum mampu menunjukan superioritas bahkan keberanian ketika berhadapan dengan tim2 papan atas baik di BPL ataupun liga Champion. Jadi selamat berkhayal buat yang masih yakin Moyes akan seperti Sir Alex

kalo mnrt om Adji, taktik yg seharusnya dipake untuk memenangkan pertandingan ini gimana yah?

[Shi no Gekai]

Woooff woooff woooff..

Hasil yang cukup mengejutkan

Q: Bagaimana kalau kita bahas perlini saja bung towel?

A: Oke bungkus..




Lini belakang

Ngga kaget dengan formasi yang diturunkan,dengan cederanya rafael dan evra akumulasi udah bisa diprediksi siapa yang akan turun.
Yang mengejutkan adalah performa mereka di lapangan,duo fullback benar2 mematikan robbery,yang pling disorot adalah buttner yang bisa mematikan gerak robben,walopun robben punya beberapa peluang tetapi overall pergerakannya dimatikan.
Ribery? Dia kayanya kangen dengan rafael jones bener2 membuat dia ga bergerak.

Duo old tower benar2 menunjukkan kapasitasnya,bermain tenang dan memblok serangan..

Lini Tengah

Kaget dengan pemain yang diturunkan,kenapa giggs? Apakah karena bermain bagus pas lawan olympiakos? Menurut gw babak pertama dia ga kliatan,dan untung diganti #FreeShinji

Dari 3 gelandang yang bermain sangat tenang adalah carrick,kroos benar2 dikantongin ama dia..

Fellaini? Setelah puja puji di match west ham dan villa eh dia malah flop,apa setiap melawan tim besar dia flop? Ada yang punya pendapat?
Header kalah,hold up ball direbut mulu,pas counter eh malah dia yang buat lama hold up ball eh malah kerebut pemain lain..
Dan mungkin dia fokus nyerang kali ya,setiap serangan dia udah didepan aja,lini tengah ditinggal,gw berharap fletcher yang ada di posisi dia..

Daaaaaaaaaaannnn..dia ga diganti..kayanya udah trademark yang dipertuanku agung lord baginda moyes kalo ada flop di lapangan tetap dipasang,kemarin2 young sekarang fellaini.

Lini Depan

Welbeck benar2 membuat javi martinez kocar kacir , gol yang dianulir menurut gw sih harusnya gol,kakinya terlihat terlalu tinggi karena martinez nunduk ketika menyundul,proses dan fiinishingnya wwoooff wooofff..

BM dibawah pep sangat berbeda dengan JH, kalo ditangan JH BM benar2 tim dengan serangan brutal,kalo ditangan pep menjadi tim ball poss yang sangat tinggi,dibuat seperti barca

Menurut gw hasil yang fair..

[fredrian.seven]

Originally Posted by Shi no Gekai

Fellaini? Setelah puja puji di match west ham dan villa eh dia malah flop,apa setiap melawan tim besar dia flop? Ada yang punya pendapat?
Header kalah,hold up ball direbut mulu,pas counter eh malah dia yang buat lama hold up ball eh malah kerebut pemain lain..
Dan mungkin dia fokus nyerang kali ya,setiap serangan dia udah didepan aja,lini tengah ditinggal,gw berharap fletcher yang ada di posisi dia..

Daaaaaaaaaaannnn..dia ga diganti..kayanya udah trademark yang dipertuanku agung lord baginda moyes kalo ada flop di lapangan tetap dipasang,kemarin2 young sekarang fellaini.

Mungkin aja rambutnya masih dibutuhkan buat set piece. Pep masukin striker jangkung (Mandzukic) sedangkan di United hanya Vida yang benar2 bisa diandalkan duel udara. Mungkin..

[troy andreas]

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Memang sama2 11 pemain. Tapi masalahnya bukan di pemainnya, tapi di pengatur taktiknya.

Formasi seperti apa yang akan diturunkan malam ini? (kabar baiknya) bahkan yang setiap minggu nntn MU aja masih belum bisa menebak secara pasti formasi dan pemain mana yang bakalan turun apalagi tim lawan. Yang ini Guordiola pun akan pusing mengantisipasi berbagai kemungkinan.

(Kabar buruknya) sama halnya dengan Guordiola, pemain sendiri pun akan pusing mengantisipasi taktik apa yang dimau si pelatih.

Berbekal kemenangan 4-1 lawan Villa, seandainya pun MU bermain sebagus melawan Villa, hanya berharap Bayern bermain sama dengan levelnya Villa. Jika hal itu terjadi, 3-0 untuk Manchester United (bungkus)

Hehehehe, kali ini om Adji kurang tepat soal Moyes. IMO formasi & taktik Moyes cukup bagus dalam membendung tim yang mengandalkan tiki- taka seperti Munchen. Memang ada kelemahannya, tapi as u see, banyak prediksi United bakal dipermalukan di OT justru salah.

Originally Posted by la7_themaestro

Setuju nih. Buat ane pasang 3 gelandang tengah sejajar itu wajib, dan salah satunya di plot untuk marking playmaker utamanya Bayern. Fergie hampir selalu menggunakan taktik serupa klo main lawan tim2 kuat di eropa (misalnya kayak park vs pirlo, jones vs CR, atau welbeck vs Xabi). Trus klo rafael emang gak main, ane harap bkn Smalling yg gantiin.

Nahh betulkan perkiraan ane, Carrick- Fellaini- Giggs. Walau Fellaini bermain gak maksimal tapi dengan menumpuk 3 pemain di tengah saat bertahan cukup merepotkan lini serang Bayern. Yang sy lihat semalam formasinya sedikit berotasi ketika menyerang, Giggs justru berada di sisi kiri. Untunglah Moyes cepat berbenah dengan masukin Kagawa, usahanya menghasilkan corner bagi United cukup baik dan tau sendiri lanjutannya. Next 2nd leg masih berharap ada 3 CMF yang ditumpuk juga di lini tengah, mungkin next match Fletcher yang turun gantikan Fellaini atau malah posisi Giggs semalam.

Originally Posted by Shi no Gekai

Woooff woooff woooff..

Hasil yang cukup mengejutkan

Q: Bagaimana kalau kita bahas perlini saja bung towel?

A: Oke bungkus..




Lini belakang

Ngga kaget dengan formasi yang diturunkan,dengan cederanya rafael dan evra akumulasi udah bisa diprediksi siapa yang akan turun.
Yang mengejutkan adalah performa mereka di lapangan,duo fullback benar2 mematikan robbery,yang pling disorot adalah buttner yang bisa mematikan gerak robben,walopun robben punya beberapa peluang tetapi overall pergerakannya dimatikan.
Ribery? Dia kayanya kangen dengan rafael jones bener2 membuat dia ga bergerak.

Duo old tower benar2 menunjukkan kapasitasnya,bermain tenang dan memblok serangan..

Lini Tengah

Kaget dengan pemain yang diturunkan,kenapa giggs? Apakah karena bermain bagus pas lawan olympiakos? Menurut gw babak pertama dia ga kliatan,dan untung diganti #FreeShinji

Dari 3 gelandang yang bermain sangat tenang adalah carrick,kroos benar2 dikantongin ama dia..

Fellaini? Setelah puja puji di match west ham dan villa eh dia malah flop,apa setiap melawan tim besar dia flop? Ada yang punya pendapat?
Header kalah,hold up ball direbut mulu,pas counter eh malah dia yang buat lama hold up ball eh malah kerebut pemain lain..
Dan mungkin dia fokus nyerang kali ya,setiap serangan dia udah didepan aja,lini tengah ditinggal,gw berharap fletcher yang ada di posisi dia..

Daaaaaaaaaaannnn..dia ga diganti..kayanya udah trademark yang dipertuanku agung lord baginda moyes kalo ada flop di lapangan tetap dipasang,kemarin2 young sekarang fellaini.

Lini Depan

Welbeck benar2 membuat javi martinez kocar kacir , gol yang dianulir menurut gw sih harusnya gol,kakinya terlihat terlalu tinggi karena martinez nunduk ketika menyundul,proses dan fiinishingnya wwoooff wooofff..

BM dibawah pep sangat berbeda dengan JH, kalo ditangan JH BM benar2 tim dengan serangan brutal,kalo ditangan pep menjadi tim ball poss yang sangat tinggi,dibuat seperti barca

Menurut gw hasil yang fair..

Buttner gak buruk- buruk amat semalam, 2 tackle serta beberapa clearences-nya itu patut di apresiasi. Tapi penyakit yang ditularkan Evra di match ini gak kumat, yakni sering telat turun.

Welbeck sudah 2 musim main bareng van Persie masih tetap saja lemah dalam hal finishing.