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Old 21-07-2010, 11:43 AM   #11
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Nah coba tak rangkum, dr quotenya Scudamore punya dua arti :
Dari 25 pemain tidak boleh lebih dari 17 orang yang lebih dari 21 tahun.
Dari 25 pemain tidak boleh lebih dari 17 orang yang bukan HG...
so, 8 orang harus Home Grown Player dan umurnya harus dibawah 21 thn.

Bener nggak om?



Maksudnya om?artinya mereka ngga perlu dimasukin ke skuad musim depan atau gimana yah? hehe, maklum, masih bingung
Mungkin kesimpulannya yang kurang tepat Sob.

Tiap klub bisa mendaftarkan 25 pemaen dengan minimal 8 pemaen homeground player nggak peduli umur berapapun. Tapi tiap klub bebas pake pemaen muda (<21 tahun) sebanyak mereka mau dalam artian nggak usah didaftarin pun mereka (U-21) tetep bisa maen.

"Clubs will be able to supplement their squads with unlimited additional players under the age of 21 on 1st January in the year in which the season commences."

Kan Chicharito, Smalling, Rafael, Fabio dan beberapa pemaen masih belom 21 tahun pas awal tahun ini jadi tanpa mereka masuk kuota pun mereka tetep bisa maen di tim utama. yang masuk kuota bisa untuk pemaen-pemaen yang > 21 tahun seperti Nani, VDS, dll.

Begitu klo menurut pemahaman saya...
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Berdasarakan pengalaman maen FM klo mau ikut UCL...

Minimal 8 Homeground player (4 Player yang merupakan asli didikan UNITED minimal dari usia 19-21, sisanya 4 pemain yg pernah latihan diinggris setidaknya ketika usia 19-21)

Begitu?
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Old 21-07-2010, 11:53 AM   #13
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Bener Om kuota maksimal pemain di BPL musim depan adalah 25 orang.

Contoh ya Fergie ambil skuad 25 orng ini buat di daftarin :

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Edwin Van Der Sar
Tomasz Kuszczak

Patrice Evra
Nemanja Vidić
Gary Neville
Rio Ferdinand
Wes Brown
John O'Shea
Jonny Evans


Owen Hargreaves
Anderson
Park Ji-Sung
Nani
Antonio Valencia
Ryan Giggs
Michael Carrick
Paul Scholes
Darren Fletcher
Darron Gibson


Dimitar Berbatov
Michael Owen
Wayne Rooney

Javier Hernandez
Yang dicetak tebal warna merah itu udh masuk Homeground player.

Jadi sisa pemain macam Dasilva twins,Smalling,Ben Amos,Obertan,dll yg masi dibawah u-21 ga perlu didaftaarin,karna regulasi FAPL membolehkan itu. cmiiw
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Old 21-07-2010, 11:54 AM   #14
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Begitu klo menurut pemahaman saya...
Oo ya ya, jadi ngeh sekarang om

Dengan aturan ini, cukup riskan donk ya apalagi kalo pemain banyak yg cidera. Bertolak belakang dgn keinginan FA untuk mengurangi pengangguran, tp kok malah melarang mempekerjakan pemain dgn pembatasan seperti ini.
Ini OOT nggak y? seru jg kayaknya

yg masuk kategori HG, klo ada yg lebih teliti, siapa aja ya?
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Old 21-07-2010, 11:55 AM   #15
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wah bahasannya berat nih .haha tapi kalo menurut ane antara Roo atau fletch sama aja sih, asal mereka bisa dan punya jiwa kepimpinan bisa jadi kapten. mungkin kalo Fletch ntar mungkin bisa kayak Bryan Robson (gelandang yg jadi kapten) atau Roo bisa kayak Cantona (striker yg jd kapten). tp kalo misalkan Vida gajadi ke Madrid ane lebih prefer ke Vida, lagipula dia juga kapten ditimnas serbia dan umur yg lebih dewasa daripada Roo dan Fletch . it just my opinion
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Berdasarakan pengalaman maen FM klo mau ikut UCL...

Minimal 8 Homeground player (4 Player yang merupakan asli didikan UNITED minimal dari usia 19-21, sisanya 4 pemain yg pernah latihan diinggris setidaknya ketika usia 19-21)

Begitu?
Maaf nih, bingung lagi
Bukannya HomeGrown antara UEFA (berkaitan dgn UCL) dan FA (PremierLeague) beda y om? maksudnya kok dibagi jadi 4 4 lg y

Kalau menurut UEFA dalam panduan Liga Champion, yang dimaksud dengan
Home Grown Player terbagi dua:
yaitu: Club dan Local

HG Club maksudnya adalah pemain yg berusia 17 thn - 21 thn: selama 3 musim (berturut-turut maupun terpisah) bermain untuk klub tsb...(Boleh berasal dari negara manapun)
HG Local maksudnya pemain yang berusia 17 thn -21 thn: selama 3 musim (berturut-turut maupun terpisah) bermain untuk klub dalam asosiasi yg sama, misalnya klub BPL.....(boleh berasal dari negara manapun)

sedangkan menurut FA seperti dibawah ini:

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"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system.
HG nya bersifat Local (bukan klub), dimana local tsb lebih luas lagi wilayah assosiasi nya yaitu Liga Prof Inggris dan Wales!
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He...Klo masalah kuota pemaen dah ada thread-nya sendiri tuh ....................................
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