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Old 12-08-2012, 05:15 AM   #21
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galerinya ada di thread sebelah broo

http://www.unitedindonesia.org/forum...d.php?p=417355

Massive comeback. Di game ini ada beberapa hal yg ditunjukin :

1. Keane emanglah seorang Centre back. Selama doi main di RB kita kebobolan 3 gol (ok doi jg kalah perebutan gol kedua hannover lewat sundulan), setelah dia kembali ke CB kita ngga kebobolan lg, selain faktor bantuan dari valencia di kanan maupun Vidic yang mungkin masih off perform..

2. Cleverley Kagawa ini bener2 duet mematikan, dan gw gak brharap bgt dia berposisi kyk tadi dlm formasi 442 IMO. Kompak mereka main, yang satu maju yg satu agak mundur. kalo bisa gw bakal pake formasi dimana di Carrick sbg gelandang bertahan ada di belakang duet Clev-kagawa... Cleverley my new scholes, tanpa keraguan...

3. We dont need RVP. mau ditaruh dimana welbeck/chicha? apalagi kalo main bagus kyk tadi dimana kita pake 1 striker di momen comeback..

4. Passing ando ke Rooney (dan Rooney diving untuk dapet penalti) itu luar biasa! kesimpulan, Anderson ini dr musim lalu maen bagus kalo duet bareng Cleverley!

5. Phelan belum cukup jago jd pelatih kepala
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:17 AM   #22
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Gimana nih analisa lengkapnya plus evaluasi per pemaen. Kaget juga pas mbaca line up starting yang nempatin Kagawa dan Cleverley jadi duo CM. Jadi menduga klo ketinggalan 3-1 karena duo CM yang lemah nge-cover pertahanan.
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Wah mas, kalo urusan itu gw ngga jago serius, mending tod, taz devil, mahesa, red devil, pokonya jgn aku .

Kayaknya sih emang gitu, sejak Chicharito keluar permainan jadi imbang di tengah, yg awalnya Cleverley capek sendirian kadang ditinggal kagawa kedepan.. Masuknya Anderson bikin beban Clev jd lebih ringan dan kagawa bisa bebas acak2 pertahanan Hannover.. Carrick kyknya nyaman main di CB..hehehe

Wah, 1 striker kayaknya opsi yg patut dipertimbangkan Fergie nih
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HILITE! Liatin deh itu tendangan bebas Rooney, Zieler aja ngga bisa ngapa2in euy

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Sepertinya seru ya match lawan Hannover...gw cuma smpt liat di livescore jam 4 pagi .
Seneng liat ada nama Rooney n Chicharito (finally) di scoreboard. Kagawa n Cleverley akhirnya bnr2 jadi duet,,mdh2'an bisa tambah mantab di EPL senin depan.
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Default Re: [Pre-season] Hannover 96 3 - 4 Manchester United

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The most exciting performance so far. Kalau saya boleh menilai, ada beberapa hal yang sangat menarik dari formasi yang dipakai tadi malam.

1. Starting line-up 4-4-2, Kagawa di posisi two-man-midfield, partner dengan Cleverley

Ini pertama kalinya Kagawa dipasang di posisi ini sejak pertama kali bergabung, dan surprisingly, dia masih bisa bermain sangat baik. Dia lebih berperan sebagai deep playing-playmaker ala Scholes yang sekarang. Tugasnya lebih banyak membagi bola ke depan dan mengatur tempo permainan dari belakang.

Positifnya, Duetnya dengan Cleverley sangat bagus di tengah. Pergerakan-pergerakan dan umpan-umpan pendek yang dilakukan Clevs dan Kagawa membuat lini tengah jadi sangat hidup. Cleverley terutama, tadi malam mainnya sangat bagus. Dia punya visi bermain dan bisa berpikir cepat saat menguasai bola. Dan satu lagi, Clev terlihat fit dan solid. Dia main 90 menit dan berkali-kali dapat tackle keras dari pemain lawan tapi dia tetap bisa main baik tanpa dapat cidera. Tentunya ini pertanda yang sangat baik buat United.

Negatifnya, United jadi agak terekspose di belakang. Kagawa dan Cleverly sangat attack-minded. Mereka sangat bagus saat melakukan one-two combo untuk memulai serangan, tapi defensive positioning mereka kurang bagus. Kagawa kurang punya mentalitas maupun disiplin bertahan untuk main sebagai two-man midfield.
Kekurangan lainnya adalah attacking potential yang dimiliki Kagawa benar-benar teredam saat dia main di belakang. Dia bagus dalam mengatur tempo dan penguasaan bola tapi karena posisinya agak di belakang, dia jarang dapat kesempatan untuk mengeluarkan kemampuan terbaiknya dalam melakukan link up di sepertiga daerah lawan.
Sebagai gantinya Rooney harus turun agak ke belakang sebagai pengatur kreativitas serangan tim. Dia berkali-kali melakukan link up dengan Nani dan Young. Hasilnya bagus tapi dia jadi kurang bisa melakukan ancaman di depan gawang lawan.


2. Anderson mengganti Hernandez, 4-2-3-1, Kagawa main di belakang Roo.

Saat formasi ini di dipakai, Semua potensi serangan United benar2 keluar. Anderson dan Cleverley sangat dinamis dan mereka punya mobilitas yang sangat tinggi. Kagawa jadi bisa lebih bebas berkreasi dan Roo main lebih bagus saat jadi striker. Nani dan Valencia menjadi sangat hidup di samping, dan level pergerakan yang dilakukan enam pemain depan sangat tinggi.

Buktinya penalti dihasilkan dari kombinasi umpan Kagawa dan Anderson di tengah dan pergerakan Roo di depan, dan gol terakhir dihasilkan dari kerjasama apik dan umpan-umpan cepat dari Nani-Roo-Kagawa. Ini United yang sudah saya tunggu-tunggu, permainan United yang sebenarnya. Di dua puluh menit terakhir kombinasi serangan yang dilakukan sangat bagus dengan tempo main yang cepat.

Walaupun begitu, kekhawatiran utama tetap ada di lini belakang. di pra-musim ini Carrick terus dicoba sebagai bek tengah, dan walaupun dia bisa, tapi dia ga punya dan ga akan punya kemampuan untuk jadi bek tengah yang andal. Michael Keane main bagus sebagai full back tapi saat main di bek tengah dia agak terekspose dari serangan sayap lawan. Gol kedua terjadi karena Keane dan Carrick dikalahkan di udara dan gol ketiga lawan terjadi karena ga adanya komunikasi dan positioning yang buruk antara Carrick dan Keane.

Bagaimanapun juga, banyak sekali hal positif yang ditunjukkan di match tadi malam, dan saya pikir United sudah siap untuk menjalani musim ini, dengan atau tanpa adanya tambahan pemain baru.


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Default Re: [Pre-season] Hannover 96 3 - 4 Manchester United

Sayang kagak nonton, jadi kagak bisa memberikan komentar banyak.
Keinginan Ane melihat Kagawa-Clev di tengah terwujud, Tapi kalau dari komeng yang lain, duet Clev-Kagawa di tengah secara sejajar jadi terlalu ofensif dan kurang sip secara defensif. perlu dipertimbangkan formasi striker tunggal dengan Kagawa jadi Phantom di belakangnya.

Tadi sempat lihat videonya Clev lawan Hannover, edan nih bocah....
visi permainannya luar biasa, quick thinking dan mampu keeping bola dalam ruang sempit. Ane berharap ada pemain seperti Hargreaves atau Uncle Keano buat pasangan Clev di tengah. Kalau ini terwujud, didukung Kagawa sebagai Phantom, lini tengah United sedang menciptakan wujud sempurnanya...
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Gimana penampilan Young? Aku baru tau klo dia diganti pas istirahat babak pertama. Apa kurang efektif maennya?
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Gimana penampilan Young? Aku baru tau klo dia diganti pas istirahat babak pertama. Apa kurang efektif maennya?
Young sama sekali ga efektif. Well, to be fair, dia sekali atau dua kali melakukan tusukan di kiri yang menghasilkan peluang, tapi kontribusinya cuma sampai di situ.

Kalau di mata saya dia kelihatan sama sekali ga pede. Mungkin efek dari Euro kemarin di mana dia banyak dapat kritikan. Kemarin dia sangat jarang dan mungkin sama sekali ga pernah berani mengajak duel one-one untuk melewati bek lawan saat dapat bola, selalu pilih umpan ke belakang.
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Default Re: [Pre-season] Hannover 96 3 - 4 Manchester United

Skor akhir kita mampu memenangi pertandingan terakhir pre season kita, tapi lini pertahanan pada saat pertandingan malam itu menjadi catatat penting untuk SAF, karena gol yang tercipta ke gawang kita karena kurangnya komunikasi di lini belakang, terlalu renggang, dan kurang agresif. Semoga aja karena ini hanya pertandingan persahabatan, semoga saja
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