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Old 22-09-2010, 10:35 PM   #11
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eh iya deh opa ntar dicek lagi.
baru tau ternyatafase penyisihan beda ama pas udah 32 besar hahah
thanks opa infonye, langsung menuju TKP
kemana aja lu baru tw?
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wwkwk siaul lo tante, UCL klao udahke 32, 16, 8, semifinal kan pake home-away atauleg 1 leg 2 tauuuuuuuuuuu.
kalo final baru dah netral
lah yg penyisihan juga home away kali
tp ga langsung kayak lu bilang

ok, BTT

lawan valencia harus bisa raih poin penuh
biasa ny united suka susah lawan tim dari spanyol
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kemana aja lu baru tw?
glory hunter ya?





lah yg penyisihan juga home away kali
tp ga langsung kayak lu bilang

ok, BTT

lawan valencia harus bisa raih poin penuh
biasa ny united suka susah lawan tim dari spanyol
siaul gue dikatain glory hunter haha

iya kali gitu beda gak langsung kayak babak 32 besar.

susah dah kalo united besok mainnye pake lini kedua kayak pas lawan rangers kemaren sih siap2 aje kalah dah haha
semoga SAF bener2 make pemain inti dan berba nyetak hattrick lagi biar menang meyakinkan
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tadi pagi Valencia ditahan imbang 1-1 oleh tamu mereka, Atletico Madrid ...
yg menarik ..., Opa Alex hadir untuk mengamati secara langsung calan lawan United next week
sampai2x team United yg sedang bertanding di piala Liga, dipercayakan pada Mike Phelan ..
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Sir Alex Checks On Valencia
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Sir Alex Ferguson left assistant manager Mike Phelan in charge, as the boss travelled to Spain to watch Valencia - next week's Champions League opponents - take-on Atletico Madrid. Phelan passed the test with ease, as The Reds fired 5 past Scunthorpe, with just 2 backfiring...
Sir Alex would have been pleased, as Darron Gibson and Chris Smalling over-turned a one-goal deficit within 15 minutes, while Michael Owen earned a second half brace and Ji-Sung Park also added to United tally of 5.

The boss was attending a La Liga fixture at Mestalla, where Valencia drew 1-1 with Atletico Madrid. Mike Phelan stood-in in place of Fergie, and was quick to clarify the situation after the 5-2 win. "He had something else on. He had to make some priorities and he left it to his other people to do."

"He had to go watch Valencia. It's important after the Rangers game with the draw that we prepare properly and we get a good view of Valencia who have started their season very well."

United face Valencia away next Wednesday, the 29th of September after they travel to Bolton Wanderers on Sunday...
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Okey daripada memperdebatkan hal ga jelas seperti kenapa UNITED ga lawan Rangers dulu di tandang ,,,, mari qta mengobok2 fakta Statistik pertandingan

Rekor pertemuan :
1999/2000
Manchester UNITED vs Valencia 3-0
Valencia vs Manchester UNITED 0-0

2000/2001
Manchester UNITED vs Valencia 1-1
Valencia vs Manchester UNITED 0-0

Recent Data
5 pertandingan terakhir Valencia
(H) versus Atletico madrid 1-1(draw)
(A) versus Hercules. 1-2(Win)
(A) versus bursaspor. 0-4(win)
(H) versus racing. 0-1(win)
(A) versus malaga. 1-3(win)

Faktanya Gol simao sambrosa semalem, merupakan pertama kali gawang Valencia kebobolan saat mereka bermain dikandang.

5 pertandingan terakhir UNITED
(A) versus scountorpe united. 2-5(win)
(H) versus pool. 3-2(win)
(H) versus Rangers. 0-0(draw)
(A) versus everton. 3-3(draw)
(H) Versus westham. 3-0(win)

Dalam 3 partai tandang terakhirnya, UNITED meraih 2x hasil imbang, dan 1 kali menang ( dengan Rekor kebobolan yg cukup tinggi yaitu 2.3 Gol per pertandingan )

Okey dari data diatas kita bisa membuat hipotesis awal bahwa, UNITED musim ini tidak bermain bagus saat bermain di tandang saat melawan tim yang memang kuat dikandang. Hal ini terbukti dengan 2x hasil imbang (0-0) yg diraih UNITED saat menghadapi valencia di mestaya.

Bagaimana fenomena ini dapat terbentuk? Ya ini semua sangat dipengaruhi oleh variabel - variabel kondisi lapangan, atmosfir suporter, dan juga cuaca di venue dimana pertandingan dilangsungkan.

Variabel kemampuan Pemain UNITED yang diatas kertas diatas rata-rata pemain fullham dan everton, ternyata akan sangat dipengaruhi oleh variabel Atmosfir yg terbentuk dalam pertandingan, terutama di lini belakang yang dihuni vidic dan evans(usianya yang masih muda, membuat evans belum terlalu siap secara psikologis untuk bermain dengan tekanan yang terlalu tinggi)

Faktor Eksternal diluar kekuatan tim dan atmosfir pertandingan

Banyak kalangan beranggapan bahwa hasil imbang yang diraih UNITED, membangun "PRASANGKA" publik bahwa SAF "bermain mata dengan Smith" untuk dapat membantu Ranger lolos dari fase grup. Jika dugaan ini benar, maka secara matematis SAF perlu menaklukan Valencia untuk memuluskan jalan Ranger. Selain itu UNITED sendiri sebenarnya pada kondisi yg kurang baik, hasil imbang akan membuat langkah UNITED jauh lebih berat. Maka saya memprediksi SAF akan membawa amunisi penuh saat bertandang ke mestaya.

Okey jadi kesimpulannya prediksi skor

Valencia 0 - 2 UNITED

Waktunya menghapus rekor Draw

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setuju dengan full loaded amunition ....
United seharusnya memang kudu maksimal untuk mencuri 3 point di laga ini, tidak sekedar bermain save dan puas dengan hasil draw ...
terlepas dari unsur 'main mata' atau tidak, hasil 0-0 atas Rangers di Old Trafford, harus diakui lebih memperberat langkah United ...

yah pertandingan akan berjalan terbuka, karena tentunya tuan rumah tetep akan berusaha mendominasi dan memenangkan pertandingan, skor akan tipis nih, dengan resiko kebobolan tetep ada, yang penting ..., berapaun gol yg 'terpaksa' bersarang di gawang United, United harus mencetak gol lebih banyak, 'n jangan lengah setelah unggul ...
ready or not ..., UNITED must ready yaa ...
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Setelah draw dengan Ranger, United harus menang beruntun dilaga selanjutnya...
Saya yakin asal kan United bermain konsisten, dan Opa Alex ga coba2 talenta muda di laga krusial,, Malaikat juga tau siapa yg jadi Juaranya.... Manchester United.!!!!

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Old 23-09-2010, 01:18 PM   #18
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waduh jadi agak bingung ama sistem UClygbaru.
lah emang gak ada leg ke 2 vs rangers ya?
format group di champions (home & away) :
lawan tim 1-2-3-3-2-1
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Old 23-09-2010, 07:08 PM   #19
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nah..krn SAF udh bolos dr Carling Cup kmren buat ngintip Valencia..
harusnya laga away nanti harusnya jadi milik United..
secara SAF sendiri yg smpe turun gunung dan absen dari match Carling Cup kmren..

Valencia juga udah 2 poin di atas United dengan 4 goal..
mau gak mau harus menang match ini biar bisa nge-takeover 1st place di grup stage dan kembali fokus ke match BPL selanjutnya...
dan masalah fisik perlu diperhatikan,jgn smpe pmain yg fisiknya terkuras lwn Bolton pas hari minggunya dipaksa main...
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saking gamau kehilangan poin opa fergie bela2in nonton valencia vs atletico madrid.
pasti deh ngeliat gaya permainannya valencia dan bikin taktik buat matchunited vs valencia (ya iyalah!)
valencia kan udahkehilangan david villa tuhsistriker hebat nya, semoga sih itu bisajadi peluang united buat ngambil poin karena paling kaga valencia gak setajam dulu pas ada david villa.
pokoknye opa fergie jangan salah taktik dan bongkar2 tim lapis kedua, kali ini tim inti harus main lah kalo gamau kehilangan poin, apalagi partai tandang .
nani-berba-scholes harus dimainin pastinyaaa
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