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Old 27-04-2014, 08:12 PM   #81
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Kalau dari bertahan iya Kagawa lemah disitu, tapi sy pribadi lebih fair menilai gimana ia tukaran posisi tadi beberapa kali trus buka ruang juga. Cleverley juga, kalo om pribadi gimana soal Clev? Saya merasa Clev malam ini lumayan bagus, memang ada salah passing beberapa kali tapi selebihnya ia main lumayan bagus mengingat musim ini jatah ia main sedikit.
Perubahan posisi yang ane tangkep.

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Rooney Kagawa
Welbeck

jadi

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Welbeck
Rooney

kadang juga jadi

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Rooney
Welbeck

Semoga makin solid deh 3 pemain ini
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Mata nya taro mana om??
Itu sebelum Mata masuk om
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Itu sebelum Mata masuk om
iya..emang yg itu saya paham..

tapi kan ada harapan yg om tulis dibawahnya tuh...semoga 3 orang itu makin solid

nah..klo yg 3 itu makin solid Mata nya dikemanain??? RvP juga??? dgn makin gencarnya rumor LvG masuk musim depan, besar kemungkinan posisi ujung tombak ga bakalan dikasih ke Roo sekalipun..IMO


nah,,jadi??? Mata ( & RvP) nya ditaro dimana??
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Perubahan posisi yang ane tangkep.

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Rooney Kagawa
Welbeck

jadi

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Welbeck
Rooney

kadang juga jadi

De Gea
Jones Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Rooney
Welbeck

Semoga makin solid deh 3 pemain ini
Dari line-up yg ditampilkan sbelum kick off di tv memperlihatkan 4-4-2 om..bukan 4-2-3-1 lagi..
jadi dg wellbeck dan rooney di depan..
Saat mata masuk menggantikan wellbeck, IMHO formasi berubah lg jadi 4-4-1-1 dgn mata sebagai false 9..
Giggsy menggunakan smua kemungkinan skema taktik dg memanfaatkan squad yg ada tapi diawali skema 4-4-2 yg sdh familiar bagi tim sejak era fergie..
Giggsy menginstruksikan tempo cepat dan memaksimalkan peran winger yg jg merupakan taktik kesukaannya fergie dan terbukti cocok untuk MU..
Ini hanya pendapat ane, CMIIW
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iya..emang yg itu saya paham..

tapi kan ada harapan yg om tulis dibawahnya tuh...semoga 3 orang itu makin solid

nah..klo yg 3 itu makin solid Mata nya dikemanain??? RvP juga??? dgn makin gencarnya rumor LvG masuk musim depan, besar kemungkinan posisi ujung tombak ga bakalan dikasih ke Roo sekalipun..IMO


nah,,jadi??? Mata ( & RvP) nya ditaro dimana??
IMO Mata-Kagawa-Rooney menurut ane emang kayak mubadzir. Karena ketiga pemain ini punya karakteristik yang hampir sama, yaitu sebagai playmaker bila ditempatkan di posisi AMF. Jadi kalo menurut ane, mau gak mau salah satu dari mereka akan ada yg jadi cadangan (atau ditempatkan di posisi lain selain AMF). Ini juga akan jadi keuntungan bila kita punya kedalam skuad yg merata.

Menurut ane jika LvG jadi menangani United, kemungkinan emang untuk posisi striker, mutlak akan jadi milik RvP jika doi gak terganggu cidera. Nah yang akan jadi kendala emang untuk posisi AMF jika LvG masih mempertahankan formasi 4-2-3-1 United sekarang ini. Mungkin imbasnya ini akan berdampak ke Kagawa dan Mata yg akan semakin sering dimainkan sebagai side flank (IMO)

Soalnya ane juga belum tau gimana dan formasi apa yg biasa dipake LvG. Ane gak pinter debat om soalnye CMIIW
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Dari line-up yg ditampilkan sbelum kick off di tv memperlihatkan 4-4-2 om..bukan 4-2-3-1 lagi..
jadi dg wellbeck dan rooney di depan..
Saat mata masuk menggantikan wellbeck, IMHO formasi berubah lg jadi 4-4-1-1 dgn mata sebagai false 9..
Giggsy menggunakan smua kemungkinan skema taktik dg memanfaatkan squad yg ada tapi diawali skema 4-4-2 yg sdh familiar bagi tim sejak era fergie..
Giggsy menginstruksikan tempo cepat dan memaksimalkan peran winger yg jg merupakan taktik kesukaannya fergie dan terbukti cocok untuk MU..
Ini hanya pendapat ane, CMIIW
Wah, salah ane gak nonton dari awal nih. Jadi gak tau tampilan yg pas sebelum kick off
Jadinya ane cuma tau pas pertandingan berlangsung, dan ya itu yg ane tangkep. Rooney lebih banyak bermain sebagai AMF yang selalu berotasi dengan Welbeck dan Kagawa. Dan setelah Mata masuk ane kira Rooney yg bakalan jadi striker di depan. Tapi emang bener apa yg dikatakan om. Malah mata yg kelihatan sering ada di depan
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IMO Mata-Kagawa-Rooney menurut ane emang kayak mubadzir. Karena ketiga pemain ini punya karakteristik yang hampir sama, yaitu sebagai playmaker bila ditempatkan di posisi AMF. Jadi kalo menurut ane, mau gak mau salah satu dari mereka akan ada yg jadi cadangan (atau ditempatkan di posisi lain selain AMF). Ini juga akan jadi keuntungan bila kita punya kedalam skuad yg merata.
yg jadi masalah adalah ketiganya ga mungkin pada mau dijadiin cadangan seandainya mereka ngotot posisinya adalah peran #10
Roo ga mungkin jadi pilihan kedua karena klo gitu dia magabut
Mata juga ga mungkin jadi cadangan karena udah dibeli mahal2
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Soalnya ane juga belum tau gimana dan formasi apa yg biasa dipake LvG. Ane gak pinter debat om soalnye CMIIW
jangan bilang debat ah...debat mah khusus buat perang sama ABU, kita disini mah semua diskusi...karena toh semua ada di pihak yg sama..
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yg jadi masalah adalah ketiganya ga mungkin pada mau dijadiin cadangan seandainya mereka ngotot posisinya adalah peran #10
Roo ga mungkin jadi pilihan kedua karena klo gitu dia magabut
Mata juga ga mungkin jadi cadangan karena udah dibeli mahal2
Kagawa?? sayang bgt bakat besarnya akhirnya cuma dijadiin penghangat bangku cadangan
Nah iya itu dia om, makanya ane kok punya feeling kalo Mata dan Kagawa bakal sering maen di side flank ketimbang di AMF. Soalnya peran Rooney juga susah buat digantikan. Cuman dia (IMO) yang sering jadi pemecah kebuntuan kalo tim lagi butuh gol. CMIIW


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jangan bilang debat ah...debat mah khusus buat perang sama ABU, kita disini mah semua diskusi...karena toh semua ada di pihak yg sama..
Hehe, oke siap om
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