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Old 02-04-2014, 11:14 AM   #11
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rada males copasnya kemari...hahaha...
maklum lagi sibuk-sibuknya...
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kalopun pake satu AMF lagi...
bisa dicoba trio Mata-Kagawa-Janujaz di belakang Rooney....
setidaknya jangan Young...hehehe
Di pertandingan kemaren lawan villa sih, si young terlihat ada gunanya juga sih...

Tugasnya untuk ngejaga biar alur serangannya gak terlalu narrow, karena die selalu ngendon di flank untuk ngasih opsi lebar lapangan, mungkin kalo januzaj punya tendensi untuk selalu cut inside kali yah...

Tapi duet mata-kagawa sih emang ngasih harapan banget...kalo selama ini mikirnya karena mata dateng kagawa makin kesisih, ternyata malah mata yg bisa ngidupin peran kagawa.

Dan makin sadar kalo mata sama kagawa tuh tipikal no.10 yg beda...dan bisa saling ngelengkapin...
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Nice blog...
ulasannya keren
Semua ada proses om
Mungkin moyes juga butuh waktu untuk melihat mana yang terbaik untuk dijadikan the winning team.
Jadi penasaran ma skuad bsk pagi melawan Munchen, hehe
Sudah 48x Moyes ngerubah starting XI dengan komposisi yang berbeda, namun baru 2x Kagawa- Mata main bersama sejak menit pertama yakni di match WHU & Villa. Butuh waktu berapa lama lagi yah?
Dari 2 match tsb banyak fans puas dengan kontribusi mereka berdua, yah kecuali hatersnya Kagawa. Mudah- mudahan disisa musim ini Kagawa- Mata bakal banyak berduet kembali, setidaknya ini sisi positif dari absennya van Persie.

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Di pertandingan kemaren lawan villa sih, si young terlihat ada gunanya juga sih...

Tugasnya untuk ngejaga biar alur serangannya gak terlalu narrow, karena die selalu ngendon di flank untuk ngasih opsi lebar lapangan, mungkin kalo januzaj punya tendensi untuk selalu cut inside kali yah...

Tapi duet mata-kagawa sih emang ngasih harapan banget...kalo selama ini mikirnya karena mata dateng kagawa makin kesisih, ternyata malah mata yg bisa ngidupin peran kagawa.

Dan makin sadar kalo mata sama kagawa tuh tipikal no.10 yg beda...dan bisa saling ngelengkapin...
Moyes terlalu mengandalkan pemain dengan tipikal winger murni, kalau Valencia yah Young-lah pilihannya. Seandainya kita punya winger lebih baik dari mereka berdua mungkin lini serangan akan sedikit berbeda apalagi ditopang Kagawa- Mata.
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Biga gak sih peran Kagawa- Goetze di Dortmund dulu dijalankan di United dengan pengganti Mata? cc @goodmin; skalian TS @Ucup Carrick;
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Yang kiri ex-AML di Dortmund yang jadi punya peran AMC di Bayern. Yang kanan ex-AMC di Dortmund tapi sering minggir ke kiri di United.
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Yang kiri ex-AML di Dortmund yang jadi punya peran AMC di Bayern. Yang kanan ex-AMC di Dortmund tapi sering minggir ke kiri di United.
Masih beberapa kali Goetze berperan sebagai AML di Munchen. Itu juga sih jadi kebalik kalau posisi Kagawa dulu di Dortmund diberikan ke Mata & Kagawa jadi AML gaya Goetze dulu. Tapi wait, ini kalau van Persie gak ada kan yah?
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Iseng-iseng bikin tulisan, monggo ya diliat di blog ini

http://ucupcarrick.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/the-rise-of-mata-kagawa/

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cuma tulisan iseng...semoga berkenan...

melihat duet ini yang ajib, bagaimana pendapat teman-teman akan poros ini. Mestinya Moyes melakukan ini dari awal...
Setuju. Memang susah buat mainin mereka berdua karena faktor Rooney. Ada opsi lainnya yaitu membuat Rooney + RVP di depan dan Mata + Kagawa di tengah tapi itu tidak mungkin karena RVP sudah terbiasa sendiri di depan
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dilema kalau lini serang dengan kualitas yg diatas rata-rata pada numpuk, tapi disatu sisi ini bisa menjaga kedalaman squad, nah sekarang lini tengahnya terutama CM yg rada keok
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Biga gak sih peran Kagawa- Goetze di Dortmund dulu dijalankan di United dengan pengganti Mata? cc @goodmin; skalian TS @Ucup Carrick;
Halo om, wah di mention buat bikin ulasan. Saya ga punya bahan untuk dua pemain ini karena pengetahuan saya minim soal bundesliga. Sebenarnya alasan Kagawa tidak sering diturunkan itu karena Moyes ini shape minded. Pernah ane post soal bentuk latihan Moyes. Mungkin udah banyak yg baca, intinya pemain-pemain punya track-nya sendiri di lapangan baik bertahan maupun menyerang.

Dengan pemberian track ini, shape atau pola formasi ga gampang rusak. Transisi dari bertahan ke menyerang akan rapi. Juga, pemain ga akan out of position. Itu yang terpenting. Mengenai out of position inilah yg jadi 'kelemahan' Kagawa di mata Moyes.



Ini adalah contoh out of position-nya Kagawa. Tapi malah berbuah gol karena Mata berdiri dengan tepat di posisi yg lowong ditinggal Kagawa (swap). Di match ini sering 2 pemain berada di tengah seperti gambar yg di blog bang Ucup. Akibatnya, shape rusak, kiri lowong. Akan riskan saat bertahan (di counter attack).

Ibarat 2 sisi mata uang jadinya. Pendekatan Moyes dengan shape minded ini akan membuat shape rapi, namun disisi lain membunuh kreatifitas pemain. Pemain tdk bisa bebas bergerak seperti yg dilakukan Kagawa. FYI, Kagawa di Jepang juga AML/LW, namun dalam formasi 4-3-3 & free role shg kreatifitasnya terekspos.

Jika dibandingkan di Dortmund (dengan tidak membahas Goetze) jelas berbeda. Bukan pengamatan 1-2 pemain namun keseluruhan tim di 2 musim kejayaan Dortmund terutama. Daya jelajah rata-rata total Dortmund per game 118-120 Km. Dengan total sprint 190 per game. Tertinggi di Eropa. Artinya, pemain-pemain Dortmund bergerak fluid saat menyerang & melakukan pressing secara kolektif saat kehilangan bola. Mengakibatkan pemain-pemain sering bertukar posisi & itu dilakukan dengan cepat. Porosnya adalah gelandang bertahan yg tidak banyak bertukar. Jadi secara filosofi, Moyes dengan Kagawa tidak nyambung.

Saya pribadi lebih tertarik dengan cara bermain Kagawa saat melawan Bayern Munchen. Bukan karena passing-passing & kreatifitas yg selama ini jadi kehandalan dia. Atau dengan kontrol bola & skill nya melakukan take ons. Malah secara statistik hal tsb tidak kelihatan. Tapi saya tertarik bagaimana dia bisa menerapkan taktik untuk menjadi double defender saat memback up Buttner. Akan lebih menarik jika Kagawa bisa menjalankan peran ini dengan baik. Posisi starter saat leg kedua bukan ga mungkin diberikan ke Kagawa.
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Biga gak sih peran Kagawa- Goetze di Dortmund dulu dijalankan di United dengan pengganti Mata? cc @goodmin; skalian TS @Ucup Carrick;
bisa klo pake pola 4-5-1 Defensif atau 4-4-1-1 attacking


v. Persie / Chicharito / Welbeck/ Rooney

Januzaj - Kagawa - Mata - Valencia

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Buttner - Evans - Jones - Rafael

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