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lama gak nge-forum...
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yang jelas nikmati dulu kemenangan ini...
bagus buat moral mengarungi separuh musim tersisa....

big four sekarang juga lagi pada gak konsisten...apapun bisa terjadi...
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Iya tuh... hanya orang buta yang bilang Liverpool menang. Eh... siapa yang buta ya? Jangan2 yang buta itu orang yang menganggap ada yang bilang Liverpool menang. Lha kagak ada yang bilang Liverpool Menang.

Semua ya tau fakta klo United menang. Tapi secara pemainan United menang? Menurutku Liverpool bermain lebih baik. Hanya emang nggak beruntung. United? United beruntung punya De Gea. Mengulang pertandingan musim lalu saat United menang 3-0. Tanpa De Gea United udah kebobolan 7 gol.

Malem tadi United maen jelek. Hanya bisa bertahan tanpa bisa nyerang. Bertahan pun pontang-panting. Tapi United bisa mencuri 1 gol dari 1 shot on target (ini fakta juga kan?).

Fakta lain...
Ball possesion 53% - 47%
Shots 19 - 7
SoT 4 - 1
Passes 514 - 450
Foul 6 - 18

Fakta apa lagi ya? Oh iya... Action Zones.
Home third 25%
Middle third 43%
Away third 33%

Apa lagi? Oh iya... pelanggaran 6 - 18

Dari statistik aja kelihatan klo United tertekan.

Tapi ya penguasaan pertandingan nggak selalu sejalan dengan hasil.



Klo hanya ngelihat saat jadi starter. Schwenie main 20x dengan hasil 9x menang, 8x imbang dan 3x kalah plus gol 1,1 - 0,8. Pujaan ente si Kribo starter 10x dengan hasil 3x menang, 3x imbang dan kalah 4x gol 1,2 - 1,3.

Ternyata dengan Schwenie starter hasilnya lebih baik. Si Kribo? Dia musti baca artikel ini biar tau diri.



Ane mah berusaha netral pas komen. Klo emang rumput tetangga lebih ijo ya ane bilang gitu. Masak gara2 fanatik trus nggak mau ngakuin klo rumput tetangga lebih ijo.



Klo hanya melihat fakta hasil pertandingan ya gini nih. Dan kayak cuman baca koran aja. Nggak ngelihat gimana mainnya. Bahkan saat De Gea dalam 2 pertandingan jadi penyelamat United aja nggak diakui. MoTM pertandingan semalem siapa sih?
1. Ane posting 3 menit stlh pertandingan berakhir, koran blm terbit bung.

2. Ah pool di tangan klopp biasa aja, bhkn start klopp pun jauh lebih parah dr rodgers, gk ada yg istimewa.

3. Ente gk adil, giliran kt unggul statistik tp seri ente tetep aja bilang maennya jelek. Giliran gk unggul statistik tp menang sama ente bilang maen jelek.
Ini bkn hnya soal kalah menang berdasar statistik, tp soal effort pemain. Main di kandang lawan, di tengah tekanan suporter lawan, tp MU tetep bs menang.
Ane c gk fanatik, tp jelas kerja keras, kesabaran n mental pemain MU menang telak dibanding looserpool di atas lapangan.

4. Dan satu lagi fakta klopp biasa aja. Utk jadi badut sirkus yg menghibur boleh lah, tp hnya sebatas menghibur aja, urusan hasil akhir seri n kalahnya juga bnyk. N klo gk salah looserpool di tangan klopp merupakan tim yg termandul bila dibanding musim2 sblmnya.
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Kalau orang yang ngga ngerti bola juga tahu kalau United yang menang tadi malam, tapi orang yang tak ngerti bola juga tidak akan tahu siapa yang bermain lebih baik td malam.


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Terlalu bnyk yg mengklaim ngerti bola di sini bung. Tp ya dr 2-3 tahun lalu analisanya jg gk jd kenyataan. Bukti2nya jg msh bnyk di forum ini.

Ada yg ngaku ngerti bola n bilang MU diisi tim yg sdh habis. Giliran musim berikutnya pemain yg sama ditangan pelatih beda jd bagus dia malah bilang mana gue tahu knp bisa bagus.
Ato pas pemain yg udah habis2an dia bilang tamat tiba2 jd mesin gol dia malah bilang jgn liat yg skrg tp liat maennya yg dulu. Klo tamat itu dulu nn skrg ya tamat. Tp klo salah asuh trus mental heblok ya wajar dulu jelek skrg bagus.

Trus dl ada jg yg bilang klo MU bkln finish di posisi 7 itu jokes n konyol. Lalu musim berikutnya saat ane analisa bilang MU bkln masuk 4 besar orangnya jg bilang itu jokes. Katanya c orang itu nfarti bola banget.

Sori panjang n oot, hnya segelintir cerita soal orang yg ngaku ngerti bola tp 2 tahun terakhir analisanya meleset semua.
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Setuju gk ada tim yg konsisten musim ini, liga musim ini mgkn liga yg terberat n terkompetitif selama 5 tahunn terakhir di Inggris, krnnya peluang juara msh terbuka lebar.
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1. Ane posting 3 menit stlh pertandingan berakhir, koran blm terbit bung.
Oh... berarti mbaca dari live score internet.

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2. Ah pool di tangan klopp biasa aja, bhkn start klopp pun jauh lebih parah dr rodgers, gk ada yg istimewa.
Wah... ane bukan pengamat Liverpool. Hanya emang klo kata ketua tim ane yang fans Liverpool sih sejauh ini masih sama aja. Tapi silahkan tanya ke fans Liverpool yang lain. Ketua tim ane cuma sekedar suka dan nggak sering mengamati.

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3. Ente gk adil, giliran kt unggul statistik tp seri ente tetep aja bilang maennya jelek. Giliran gk unggul statistik tp menang sama ente bilang maen jelek.

Ini bkn hnya soal kalah menang berdasar statistik, tp soal effort pemain. Main di kandang lawan, di tengah tekanan suporter lawan, tp MU tetep bs menang.

Ane c gk fanatik, tp jelas kerja keras, kesabaran n mental pemain MU menang telak dibanding looserpool di atas lapangan.
Klo emang jelek trus mo gimana Om? Secara statistik unggul tapi seri dibilang jelek? Lha klo musuhnya di atas kertas harusnnya bisa menang ya trus mo gimana lagi? Ane sih nggak cuma lihat menang seri kalah tapi juga lihat gimana permainan di atas lapangan.

Kesabaran dan mental pemain United menang? Kok aku rasa sebaliknya ya? Passing United kacau semalem. Di press dikit udah kalut. Klo nggak passing-nya nggak tepat paling balik kanan passing ke belakang. Pemain Liverpool bisa menekan pemain United.

Sebagai fans United sih ane seneng banget. Tapi secara permainan apa yang ditunjukin United jelek. Bahkan mo dibilang main bertahan pun United rada panik.

Effort pemain? Ya ane hargai. Tapi tetep aja yang ane baca di internet pun semua sepakat Liverpool main lebih baik. Nggak perlu lihat statistik lagi.

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4. Dan satu lagi fakta klopp biasa aja. Utk jadi badut sirkus yg menghibur boleh lah, tp hnya sebatas menghibur aja, urusan hasil akhir seri n kalahnya juga bnyk. N klo gk salah looserpool di tangan klopp merupakan tim yg termandul bila dibanding musim2 sblmnya.
Gimana Liverpool dibawah Klopp sih bukan urusan ane. Ane cuma tau permainan mereka tadi malem lebih bagus dari United. United cuma unggul hoki aja. Bahkan semalem ane bilang ke temen ane klo 0-0 aja United udah bagus.
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alhamdulillah. berkat dave the save, tim amatir asal manchester ini bisa meraih 3 poin lawan tim rival sakitnya tuh disini nyerang 90 menit, cuma kena 1 shot on target dan jadi gol

rooney jadi rajin cetak gol juga, kredit utk dia di tahun ini semoga berlanjut keran golnya...walo penampilannya masih ancur2an
Udah nongol om
enak nya bilang tim amatir
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Terlalu bnyk yg mengklaim ngerti bola di sini bung. Tp ya dr 2-3 tahun lalu analisanya jg gk jd kenyataan. Bukti2nya jg msh bnyk di forum ini.

Ada yg ngaku ngerti bola n bilang MU diisi tim yg sdh habis. Giliran musim berikutnya pemain yg sama ditangan pelatih beda jd bagus dia malah bilang mana gue tahu knp bisa bagus.
Ato pas pemain yg udah habis2an dia bilang tamat tiba2 jd mesin gol dia malah bilang jgn liat yg skrg tp liat maennya yg dulu. Klo tamat itu dulu nn skrg ya tamat. Tp klo salah asuh trus mental heblok ya wajar dulu jelek skrg bagus.

Trus dl ada jg yg bilang klo MU bkln finish di posisi 7 itu jokes n konyol. Lalu musim berikutnya saat ane analisa bilang MU bkln masuk 4 besar orangnya jg bilang itu jokes. Katanya c orang itu nfarti bola banget.

Sori panjang n oot, hnya segelintir cerita soal orang yg ngaku ngerti bola tp 2 tahun terakhir analisanya meleset semua.
Langsung aja..
Menurut situ United sudah bermain bagus tadi malam ?
coba kasih analisa nya !
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Liverpool 0-1 Manchester United — Five things we learned: Red Devils would be in bottom half without David de Gea and Christian Benteke deserves another chance

* Wayne Rooney scored Manchester United's winning goal in 78th minute
* David de Gea made crucial saves to deny Liverpool chance of taking lead
* Christian Benteke was given just nine minutes to make impact from bench


Manchester United snatched a win against rivals Liverpool thanks to a 78th-minute winner by captain Wayne Rooney.

Jurgen Klopp's side had the most clear-cut chances but failed to find a way past the impressive David de Gea.

Here, Sportsmail's Anthony Hay reveals the five things he learned from the league encounter.

1. RIO FERDINAND IS RIGHT, LIVERPOOL AND UNITED LACK QUALITY

Within 20 minutes of the Premier League clash at Anfield, former Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand took to Twitter to say: 'Lacking quality so far in this game! Booting the ball out of play here for fun!!' And he's right, gone are the days when these two teams compete for major titles. It's going to take a while for the north-west duo to get anywhere near Manchester City and Arsenal as they are both severely lacking quality.


Former Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand complained about the quality of the Premier League clash

2. WAYNE ROONEY CONTINUES TO SCORE IN STREAKS

You just cannot write him off, can you? Rooney failed to score in five games before United's win against Swansea at the start of January. He has since followed up his winner against the Welsh outfit with a late penalty to settle United's FA Cup clash with Sheffield United and scored a brace at Newcastle. He remains United's best outfield player despite the millions of pounds the club have forked out on fresh talent.


Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney is congratulated by team-mate Daley Blind after scoring winner

3. CHRISTIAN BENTEKE DESERVES ANOTHER CHANCE TO LEAD LINE

He may not have been Klopp's signing but Liverpool surely need to put more faith in their £32.5million recruit following his summer move from Aston Villa. A player of Christian Benteke's build would have surely frightened the life out of Daley Blind and Young. Roberto Firmino, who led Liverpool's line, would be better suited playing just behind a main striker.


Liverpool striker Christian Benteke was given just nine minutes to make an impression from the subs' bench

4. MANCHESTER UNITED NEED PHIL JONES AND MARCOS ROJO BACK

Injured defensive duo Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo were in the stands to cheer on their team-mates but Louis van Gaal needs them to be more than cheerleaders. Jones has played just 13 games for United this season due to injuries, while Rojo hasn't played since November due to a shoulder injury.They can both cement a regular first-team role when they return. Ashley Young's injury is yet another blow.


Defenders Marcos Rojo (left) and Phil Jones (right) were cheering on their team-mates from the stands

5. THE RED DEVILS WOULD BE IN BOTTOM HALF WITHOUT DAVID DE GEA

David de Gea hailed Manchester United's support for welcoming him back to Old Trafford after his move to Real Madrid broke down, however the roles should be reversed. De Gea made three superb saves to give his team-mates the platform to snatch the win in the 78th minute. It will not be long until he replaces Manuel Neuer as the world's best goalkeeper.


David de Gea (pictured with Juan Mata) denied the likes of Adam Lallana and Emre Can with superb saves

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Langsung aja..
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Gk bagus, gk juga jelek biasa aja. Tp kerja keras n kesabaran serta mental tim perlu diacungi jempol, itu yg jadi pembeda kita di laga semalam.
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Sama musuh bebuyutan ga usah kasihan,,Om. MU main jelek sepanjang 90 menit,,tapi akhirnya menang lewat gol keren Rooney. Berasa ga da Schwenie lgsg stagnan aliran bola ke final third,,ditambah Herrera performnya menurun malam ini. Mdh2'an lwn Soton bisa lbh keren lagi mainnya.
Klo ada schweni jaminan kt pegang ball possesion tp tanpa gol
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