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Old 07-02-2014, 01:23 PM   #111
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terlepas dari segala statistik sich vale...maaf ane kgk ngeh gituan. yang ane tau pas nonton trus lihat mainnya gitu aja.

jadi ane setuju ikut vote sell Vale. secara saya kgk tau bener atau salah, seiring era SAF berakhir, tahun ini emang si vale kgk seperti sebelum2nya. tanpa lihat statistik saja sudah ketahuan. apalagi tertutup sinar si januzaj yg lagi bersinar. bahkan kalau boleh ikut milih formasi, 3 depan itu rooney, mata, januzaj


jadi mohon maaf kalau beda pendapat..this time saatnya vale out. plus si young juga n nani jgn lupa. tinggal cari aja yang baru
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:50 AM   #112
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dapet nih...sekaligus koreksi juga buat yg selama ini kita anggap valencia 2 gol di PL, ternyata udah bikin 4 gol di PL

cek sendiri ya...
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/p...sTabsAttacking

gw ambil stat yg menarik aja deh..
karena posisi winger, doi udah bikin crossing 139 kali tapi yg berbuah gol cuma 3 artinya success rate nya cuma 0,021%
mantap kaan??

Ini yg lo bilang statistik lengkap....wkwkwkw
Mana analisa nya dari pundit yg nulis ?
Masak cuma itung2an doank, dari situ aja udah keliatan lo telan mentah2 tanpa mencerna semua informasi media..
139 cross 3kali gol itu blm cukup buat jadi acuan bro, gmn kalo crossing nya delivered tapi target gak mampu mengkonversikan jadi gol, yg salah crosser juga ?
Baru ini gw dengar org baca statistik kayak lo, jadi nya klo umpan gagal berbuah gol, yang salah pengumpan nya gak becus..
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:25 AM   #113
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Hahahah...emang selama ini yg keliatan di lo itu si pemain target ga bisa konversi jd gol atau crossing valencia kebangetan canggih???
Jgn ketawa doang dong ah...baru kali ini ane debat tp lawannya cm bs ngetawain doang.... Kekekekeke....skrg gw tanya...dr stat tersedia,,apa yg lo bisa simpulkan...pengen tau ane bacaan nya orang yg lg ga mabuk...
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Hahahah...emang selama ini yg keliatan di lo itu si pemain target ga bisa konversi jd gol atau crossing valencia kebangetan canggih???
Jgn ketawa doang dong ah...baru kali ini ane debat tp lawannya cm bs ngetawain doang.... Kekekekeke....skrg gw tanya...dr stat tersedia,,apa yg lo bisa simpulkan...pengen tau ane bacaan nya orang yg lg ga mabuk...



Valenci overall gak bagus2 amat, tapi dalam beberapa pertandingan dia bagus..
Ada kala nya crossing nya delivered tapi terbuang percuma dan banyak juga yg membentur bek..
Dari stat yg lo simpulkan 139 cuma 3 yg jadi assist..
Ni dah gw jelasin lo aja ngga nyambung


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Old 09-02-2014, 01:11 PM   #115
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Gw sebenernya ada dipihak yg berharap kalo diluar ada pemain yg lebih bagus dr valencia, ngga ada salahnya untuk ambil pemain tsb menggantikan valencia. Meski utk saat ini keberadaan doi cukup membantu karena faktanya sayap kanan paling becus (diantara yg tdk becus) adalah valencia, blm lg ditambah doi bisa jd RB dadakan saat kebugaran pemain belakang kita ga pasti belakangan ini.

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Ini yg lo bilang statistik lengkap....wkwkwkw
Mana analisa nya dari pundit yg nulis ?
Masak cuma itung2an doank, dari situ aja udah keliatan lo telan mentah2 tanpa mencerna semua informasi media..
139 cross 3kali gol itu blm cukup buat jadi acuan bro, gmn kalo crossing nya delivered tapi target gak mampu mengkonversikan jadi gol, yg salah crosser juga ?
Baru ini gw dengar org baca statistik kayak lo, jadi nya klo umpan gagal berbuah gol, yang salah pengumpan nya gak becus..
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Hahahah...emang selama ini yg keliatan di lo itu si pemain target ga bisa konversi jd gol atau crossing valencia kebangetan canggih???
Jgn ketawa doang dong ah...baru kali ini ane debat tp lawannya cm bs ngetawain doang.... Kekekekeke....skrg gw tanya...dr stat tersedia,,apa yg lo bisa simpulkan...pengen tau ane bacaan nya orang yg lg ga mabuk...
Tp gw harus quote ini bro. Semua org punya kekurangan, namun selama org itu terbuka, itu bagus. Pertanyaan lo udah dijawab sebenernya ama TOD, dan dr kebanyakan postingan lo keseringan bertanya balik disaat pertanyaan dilemparin ke lo, yg bikin semuanya muter2 disitu. Jujur aja jawaban lo itu ga mengandung unsur analisa dr statistik yg lo jabarkan menurut opini lo sendiri, melainkan LANGSUNG kesimpulan tanpa adanya penjelas trlebih dahulu.

Gw ga membela TOD, toh gw ada diposisi netral utk kasus vale, karena ada nani dan young yg gw harap lebih cepet keluar dulu. Hanya gw saling mengingatkan biar ujung2nya kita kaga debat kusir. Disaat terpojok mari jangan membawa hal2 diluar topik yg gak relevan, ujung2nya lempar2an sindiran

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Maaf bung tono, kami sudah bosan melihat gaya permainan anda. Sudah saatnya anda mencari klub lain
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Valenci overall gak bagus2 amat, tapi dalam beberapa pertandingan dia bagus..
Ada kala nya crossing nya delivered tapi terbuang percuma dan banyak juga yg membentur bek..
Dari stat yg lo simpulkan 139 cuma 3 yg jadi assist..
Ni dah gw jelasin lo aja ngga nyambung






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Yg ane tanya kan,,bacaan ente thdp stat nya valencia selama 24 pertandingan om,,anggap aja ente pundit...bukan malah nanya balik ke saya,,"gimana klo si target ga bisa konversi jd gol? Salah valencia juga?",,okay???

Trus mengenai yg ente minta soal review bkn cm stat,, ane yakin pundit2 terkenal diseluruh dunia ga asal jeplak sblm liat stat si pemain,,termasuk 2 review yg ente pernah bawa...

Nah..sekali lg,,bacaan ane, valencia ga cukup bagus crossing nya karena 3 doang yg berhasil nyamper ke tmn sendiri...
Skrg silakan ente post bacaan ente...
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Tp gw harus quote ini bro. Semua org punya kekurangan, namun selama org itu terbuka, itu bagus. Pertanyaan lo udah dijawab sebenernya ama TOD, dan dr kebanyakan postingan lo keseringan bertanya balik disaat pertanyaan dilemparin ke lo, yg bikin semuanya muter2 disitu. Jujur aja jawaban lo itu ga mengandung unsur analisa dr statistik yg lo jabarkan menurut opini lo sendiri, melainkan LANGSUNG kesimpulan tanpa adanya penjelas trlebih dahulu.
Okay,gw paham mksd lo...klo gitu karena di post terakhir om ToD bilang bisa jd crossing nya ga bs dikonversi jd gol makanya assist nya cm 3, tolong dibuktikan...
Karena yg namanya "bisa jd" itu jg opini pribadi sama halnya dgn opini gw...
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Om tukang las..
Biar lo ngga bingung2 juga ni gw kasih stat Valencia apa yg gw bilang passing delivered ato successful passes, biar lo ngga makan mentah2 passing 139 kok cuma 3 jadi assist..
Ntr malah lucu dan malu2in jadinya bilang successful pass nya 0.021% kayak dibawah ini
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dapet nih...sekaligus koreksi juga buat yg selama ini kita anggap valencia 2 gol di PL, ternyata udah bikin 4 gol di PL

cek sendiri ya...
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/p...sTabsAttacking

gw ambil stat yg menarik aja deh..
karena posisi winger, doi udah bikin crossing 139 kali tapi yg berbuah gol cuma 3 artinya success rate nya cuma 0,021%
mantap kaan??


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Nih stats nya lengkap dgn rating overall..

Valencia rata melakukan passing 39 passing per game dengan akurasi 84%, lo itung aja berapa passing nya yg delivered dan itu bukan opini gw ya..
Fakta nya disini lebih lengkap
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/182...tonio-Valencia

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