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Old 15-04-2010, 02:33 PM   #71
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Itu kan makam kramat,bukan masalah jasad msh ada disana atau tidak,yg nama nya makam ya makam,aplg udh dikramatkan gitu...
Skrg kl jasad nabi ibrahim di pindah apakah makamnya skrg akan dilupakan org,dan diapus status tmpt jiarah nya..ga gitu jg nilai nya...
Masa mentang2 jasadnya udh pindah ke semper trus org berbondong2 kesana aj ga ush kesitu lg,kawasan itu udh jd kawasan krmata itu esensi nya,jgn diputar2 balikan...
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Old 15-04-2010, 02:34 PM   #72
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Kejadian kemarin seharusnya tidak perlu terjadi ....
ini malah semakin menguatkan dugaan bro Dyan......

duh...negeri ku yang tercinta...hmmmph...
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Old 15-04-2010, 02:37 PM   #73
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Yang bertanggung jawab ??? Pimpinan tertinggi d DKI tentu saja .... Bung Foke

Ada unsur politis yg amat kental bermain d situ .... sampai ormas lokal seperti FB* ikut urun tangan ...

Banyak hal yg membuat miris .... anak2 usia sekolah ( SMP atau SMA ) justru ikut "tawuran" dan berlagak seperti jagoan d film .... reporter maupun kameramen tivi yg menyiarkan siaran langsung tanpa adanya sensor ... dan beberapa orang yg harus kehilangan nyawa akibat miskoordinasi ...
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Old 15-04-2010, 02:47 PM   #74
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Bosss ini peristiwa yg sebenarnya bukan atas nama agama, so baiknya ndak usah sebut2 agama tertentu kalo pendapat sampeyan seperti itu ya itu hak sampeyan ndak usah dipaparkan di sini! di mana2 banyak orang yg berbuat jelek, mungkin kebetulan dia agamanya "XXXX" karena memang di negara itu ya mayoritas "XXXX". So mohon dalam postingan ndak usah nyebutin identitas yg berbau SARA !!!!!karena ini forum yg lintas agama....
O iya bang, moris mengerti maksud bang irham
Barusan moris baca lagi, apa yg salah dgn postingan moris? menurut moris ga ada yg salah.
Tapi masalahnya orang yg baca bisa salah mengartikan dan salah memahami isinya.

Tapi percayalah, ga ada maksud kesana, malah sebenarnya tujuan moris baik



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Mr. Momod, mohon diremove postingan moris ya, Thanxs
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Old 15-04-2010, 02:53 PM   #75
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Gak bisa komentar apa2:-s:-s
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Old 15-04-2010, 02:55 PM   #76
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kira2..kasus ini dibuat2 ga sieh?
Kok sy juga sempat berfikir gitu yah...
Maka semakin tenggelamlah kasus Bank Century & kasus2 lainnya...
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Old 15-04-2010, 03:13 PM   #77
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O iya bang, moris mengerti maksud bang irham
Barusan moris baca lagi, apa yg salah dgn postingan moris? menurut moris ga ada yg salah.
Tapi masalahnya orang yg baca bisa salah mengartikan dan salah memahami isinya.

Tapi percayalah, ga ada maksud kesana, malah sebenarnya tujuan moris baik



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Mr. Momod, mohon diremove postingan moris ya, Thanxs
Ya emang demikian maksud saya, biarlah silahkan berargumen, tanpa dibilangpun semua setuju agama tidak bisa menjadi justifikasi untuk anarkis. Thanks atas pengertiannya
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Old 15-04-2010, 03:35 PM   #78
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sekali lagi....

sorry jika sampai ada yg tersinggung
yang biasanya terjadi... masyarakat dengan seenak udelnya sendiri memakai ataupun memanfaatkan lahan lahan kosong yang bukan miliknya... dan jelas2 tahu itu bukan tanah miliknya

dan parahnya lagi ada aparat laen yg mengurusi itu sblmnya sering melakukan pungutan dan sejenisnya ke warga tsb jadi mereka merasa bayar..

tapi giliran ada penggusuran mereka marah2 teriak2 merasa mereka di perlakukan spt hewan...

nah dari kasus diatas harusnya juga ada instropeksi dari masing2 pihak...
pihak pemerintah jg harusnya tegas jangan sampai ada aparat yg memanfaatkan pungli tsb dan juga warga yang jangan seneng menempati lahan yang bukan miliknya...
ya...saya setuju banget denga om bayu.....
memang sdh terlalu banyak kasus beginian...pertama hanya menempati lahan2 yang kosong d mana lahan ini belum di patok oleh si empunya lahan....
lama kelamaan yg menempati lahan td merasa sdh lama tinggal trus pernah merasa membayar ato mengurus surat2 tanah begitu jdx mereka merasa sipemilik lahan...........
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Old 15-04-2010, 03:41 PM   #79
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mau siapapun yg bertanggung jawab atau salah!!
tetap korban nya orang kecil,,,
rakyat nya orang kecil
satpol pp pun nya orang kecil,,,
oh negare indonesia ku,,,
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ya...saya setuju banget denga om bayu.....
memang sdh terlalu banyak kasus beginian...pertama hanya menempati lahan2 yang kosong d mana lahan ini belum di patok oleh si empunya lahan....
lama kelamaan yg menempati lahan td merasa sdh lama tinggal trus pernah merasa membayar ato mengurus surat2 tanah begitu jdx mereka merasa sipemilik lahan...........
ya itu mereka memang salah...

tapi harus lihat latar belakangnya juga...

dalam banyak kasus seperti ini...yang biasanya menimpa warga miskin kota...

mereka biasanya warga pendatang dari luar kota...bahkan luar provinsi...

nah mereka melakukan hal itu...biasanya karena mereka tidak mampu membeli rumah/lahan sendiri...karena untuk sekedar makan saja...mereka harus mengais sampah...

jadi...mereka juga cuma "sekedar bertahan hidup"...

yang salah di sini siapa...???...

ya kita semua...termasuk pemerintah yang tidak bisa menyediakan lapangan kerja yang cukup dan pantas...atau tidak bisa memberikan sarana pendidikan yang cukup...agar mereka tidak hidup dengan cara itu...dsb, dst...dan juga mungkin kita yang kurang peduli dengan orang lain...orang-orang yang tidak seberuntung kita...

jadi banyak masalahnya...bukan hanya kasus sekelompok orang menempati lahan kosong...lalu "ditertibkan" aparat Satpol PP...
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