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Old 27-09-2010, 05:46 PM   #21
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Well... Kalo begitu squad United taun ini sama sekali ga punya depth... Ada ketimpangan besar antara first team and second string...
Too much gap malah menurut gw...
Bagaimanapun.. Siap ga siap para youngsters harus tau.. Tanpa usaha keras di training dan pengembangan skill mereka, maka peluang untuk tampil pun semakin kecil...
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Old 27-09-2010, 05:56 PM   #22
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@om panda : Iya,gw pun melihat ada gap yg besar,itu knp gw selalu blg regenerasi sesegera mungkin..bukan secara frontal,tp beri para youngster kesempatan lbh bnyk dr skrg ini..ini bukan hal yg bisa langsung di atasi,SAF sendiri jg sudah blg kan kl dia akan sulit cr pengganti 3 legend kita itu..

Nah yg jd masalah adalah bgmn mw dpt pengganti kl tongkat estafet tidak mulai di pindah tangankan...

@ febry : berarti saat ini para youngster lum pantas gt sering2 maen di level atas?
Kalau gt kapan dunk? Apa pas semua senior 92' pensiun baru para youngster maen gt? Yg ada kaget lah mereka,mk nya harus di biasakan dr sekarang biar saat waktunya nanti mereka ga kaget..
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Old 27-09-2010, 06:11 PM   #23
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Yup... Skrg udah ada pemain yang dipromote...
The likes of Evans, Gibson and Kiko... But, they need more minutes...
Khususnya Kiko... And hopefully Obertan n De Laet or Eikrem will get the chances to shine...
Kalo ga mulai sekarang... Dengan gap yg besar antara first team and second string... Gw takut nanti kita akan jd seperti Madrid yang hanya bisa beli, beli, beli..dan beli...
Yg ada nanti mereka (para pemain muda itu) ga akan pernah bisa menunjukkan kompetensinya karena ketakutan SAF akan ketatnya kompetisi...
Ga usah jd starter... Berikan saja mereka 10 menit untuk bermain...
10 menit di first team rasanya jauh lebih berarti dibandingkan 90 menit di reserves..
Cuma pendapat gw aja ini...
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Old 27-09-2010, 06:12 PM   #24
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ya kayanya pikiran gw sama am braders yg diatas2,,,
selaen terlalu banyak masang target 19-4 sebelom pensiun dia maksain bgt yg sudah pengalaman alias profesional yg lebih tau dan terbiasa mbaca pergerakan lawan yg dimaenin

kali dia takut kaya Arsenal yg mainin rata2 daon muda semua gag juara2
kalo kata org sih ala bisa karna terbiasa.. kalo gag dimaen2in kapan bisanya??

but overall kita cuma bisa heran plus gag tau apa pikiran Opa... cuma bisa berdoa setyap match adalah 3 poin..

sumpah lesu gw ngeliat permaenan United akhir2 ini.. apa lagi Rooney yg gw puja2 lg off perform..

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Old 27-09-2010, 07:18 PM   #25
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Sependapat dng Om TS nih gw.

Bingung kita kl lihat skrg. Emang sih ada pepatah dr lapangan hijau "Never change the winning team"

Tapi dlm bbrapa pertandingan terakhir kita gampang bngt kecolongan gol di saat" krusial. Sampai kpn si Fergie ga mw kasi kesempatan anak muda main di Liga, mereka hny dikasi main sebatas di Carling or UCL (dng catatan lwn dibwh kita).

De Laet sm Ajose udh loan 1 bulan ke klub lain. O'shea maih aja dipasang di bek kanan, pdhal gw lbh prefer sm Rafael yg punya desire kuat ketika dimainin.

Kasus sm Tosic blum diberi waktu lebih udh keburu cabut duluan. Jgn sampe kejadian kek Bebe or Chicha maybe. who knows.

Kuszczak,Rafael,Gibson,Macheda,Obertan menurut gw musim ini musim pembuktian mereka, mereka hrs sering dipasang Fergie.
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Old 27-09-2010, 08:29 PM   #26
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Draw vs Fulham 2-2, Everton 3-3, Bolton
menang vs Pool 3-2...
Ini membuktikan sektor pertahanan kita sangat bermasalah.. dengan aktor dibalik kebobolan dan bobrok nya pertahanan ngga jauh2 dari orang2 yang sama Oshea dan Evans..
masalah SAF percaya ato tidak dengan youngster mungkin sudah dilakukan dalam beberapa pertandingan dengan menurunkan pemain mudah seperti Gibbo, Chicharito, Smalling, Fabio..
kalo kita sederhana kan perlini..
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kita ngga terlalu bermasalah dengan lini depan ,masih wajar young player menuggu..
stok youngster disini Macheda, Chicharito, mungkin juga Bebe..
Berba lagi in fire, Rooney mungkin belum menemukan permainan nya tapi sejauh ini duet berba-Roo selalu menghasilkan gol..
kalo slot buat young player diberikan gw melihat nya Berba-Chcharito, Berba-Macheda..
Winger
Buat winger SAF masih mengandalkan Giggs yang udah tua dan rentan cedera
stok young player, Obertan, mungkin juga Bebe
Dengan cedera nya Valencia otomatis 1 slot winger jadi rebutan secara 1 slot udah pasti milik Nani..
gw berharap Bebe ato juga Obertan lebih banyak dimainkan
Midfielders
Buat midfileders gw setuju dengan keputusan SAF sejauh ini duet Fletch- scholes memang yang terbaik saat ini,
stok Young player Ando, Gibbo,
Scholes tampil impresif musim ini, bahkan dia adalah penampil terbaik united sejauh ini, juga kalo SAF ingin bermain dengan DM Carrick dan mungkin juga Hargo (hope) udah ada di posisi itu secara young sterDM kita ngga ada dan realistis memang kalo slot young ster tidak ada disini selama tidak ada yang cedera secara penampilan Gibbo masih jauh di bawah standar selain shooting dia belum bisa bermain dengan standar United..
Gw ngga liat ada slot buat young ster disini ( jadi ingat Cleverly)
Defence
Ini yang paling bermasalah selama ini,
stok young player, Si kembar, Smalling, Evans
Vida dan Evra jelas ngga tergantikan, otomatis slot yong player 1 buat CB dan 1 Buat RB
kalo dibilang SAF ngga yakin dengan pemain muda bukti nya ketika Rio cedera SAF cendrung memilih Evans ketimbang Brown walau hasil nya ngga bisa diharapkan..
Buat right back
Yang gw heran kenapa Oshea yang jelas2 dalam beberapa pertandingan selalu tampil jelek selalu dimainkan sementara masih ada si kembar

Kesimpulan gw slot yang pantas buat young player saat ini ada 2
Right Back, harus nya ada si kembar disitu..
Winger, Obertan layak dicoba, tapi gw pribadi lebih prefer Bebe

PS :gw ngga bilang 1 slot CB yang bermasalah karena Evans juga udah ada disana(young player)

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Old 27-09-2010, 10:00 PM   #27
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Moga secepatnya ada solusi. Emang sih perjalanan liga masih panjang, tapi klo penampilan United tidak ada perubahan bisa2 akan jadi musim yang sangat berat. Moga di 2 pertandingan di depan akan ada perubahan di line up United. Rafael, Obertan, Smalling, Macheda dan Ando rasanya pasti akan siap saat diturunkan. Macheda menemani Berba yang lagi on fire, Obertan bekerjasama dengan Scholes, Fletcher dan Nani serta Rafael bersama Rio mengisi sektor tengah dan kanan pertahanan.
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Old 27-09-2010, 10:11 PM   #28
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kiper gua rasa sedikit tidak dicoba lah youngsternya...minimal diajang carling....
ben amos kudu diasah juga tuh....
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Moga di 2 pertandingan di depan akan ada perubahan di line up United. Rafael, Obertan, Smalling, Macheda dan Ando rasanya pasti akan siap saat diturunkan. Macheda menemani Berba yang lagi on fire, Obertan bekerjasama dengan Scholes, Fletcher dan Nani serta Rafael bersama Rio mengisi sektor tengah dan kanan pertahanan.
gw rasa setelah michael owen mencetak gol kmrn, dan dg tdk dibawanya rooney ke spain, 1 slot di depan utk menemani berba akan jd milik pemaen senior lg, michael owen, kecuali SAF mengistirahatkan berba, mgkn di depan bisa owen-kiko ato owen-chicarito, ada kesempatan utk salah satu youngster kita

berharap aja di UCL kali ini obertan & rafael jg diberi kesempatan + smalling jika rio msh absen
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Default Re: SAF on youngsters: Fear, trust or what?

Khusus Rafael yang sekarang tampak terabaikan, barangkali ini hukuman atas blundernya musim lalu. Tapi, bagaimana bisa berkembang dan belajar dari pengalaman kalau tidak diberi kesempatan lagi ya?

Beginilah dilema youngster utk klub besar. Ketika mereka mendapat kesempatan, maka kesempatan itu harus langsung dibayar dengan performa sangat bagus. Bagus saja belum cukup. Sekali di bawah harapan, manajer sulit ambil resiko lagi..

Patut dicurigai, SAF akan berencana pensiun dalam waktu dekat. Jadi tidak seperti dekade sebelumnya, kini yang terpenting baginya adalah hasil jangka pendek utk menutup karir yang manis sebelum pergi. Era penghabisan, makanya dia ingin lebih aman tanpa ambil resiko memainkan youngster. Urusan jangka panjang klub, biar dipikirin manajer penggantinya kelak aja deh... Kecurigaan saya berlebihan?
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