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rondwisan 17-09-2009 10:29 AM

Carlos Queiroz
 
akankah dia kembali ke Old Trafford .... :-/:-/:-/
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Will Carlos Queiroz be back at Old Trafford Soon?
epltalk.com - David Schiavone - September 15, 2009

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...08_692200a.jpg

With Portugal on the verge of non-qualification for the World Cup in 2010, manager Carlos Queiroz is under extreme pressure and has the very real possibility of unemployment looming over him. Given this threat, and inevitability that this will occur, I ask you… How long before we see the Portuguese back in the Manchester United dugout alongside Sir Alex Ferguson?

With Portugal lying fourth in their World Cup qualifying group with only ten points from seven matches. Going into the qualification group as favourites, the current state of affairs comes as a real shock for the Euro 2008 quarter-finalists.

Denmark have more or less qualified for the World Cup with Hungary and Sweden in equally strong positions. It was imperative the Portuguese overcame Hungary in the last match, but even still, the jobcentre still looms large for Queiroz.

With Portugal lying third in Group A, level on points with fourth placed Hungary and two points behind Sweden who lie second. With two games remaining Portugal face Hungary and Malta, both in Portugal, nothing less than six points from these games will do. But Sweden do have a relatively straightforward fixture with Albania, before which, they play Denmark, a game that will decide the fate of Carlos.

Queiroz therefore may be looking for new employment sooner rather than later and the Old Trafford bench is a familiar environment, one where he has had success in the past as well.

During his first reign sat beside Ferguson for only one year but managed to help the Old Trafford side win the Premier League title on season 02/03, before being poached by Real Madrid. It was after an unsuccessful year in Madrid that he was brought back to Old Trafford by Ferguson to begin an extremely successful four-year reign as assistant manager.

As a number one, Queiroz is terrible, making mistake after mistake. He is also accountable for Portugal’s failure to qualify for Euro ’92 and after taking over a very talented Sporting Lisbon team, led them to three seasons of failure and was promptly dismissed. After his first stint at Old Trafford, Real Madrid offered him a dream job, one that he could not turn down, and one that was a veritable disaster.

Sir Alex Ferguson welcomed the failed coach back to Old Trafford as his number two in July 2004 and so began a fruitful relationship. A number of trophies became housed at Old Trafford, including the 2008 Champions League trophy. Queiroz was seen as instrumental in United’s success, introducing new training methods and tactical plans that underpinned the Manchester United side of a few years back.

He also has an eye for talent spotting; he famously discovered Portugal’s so-called ‘Golden Generation’ and also had a hand in bringing Cristiano Ronaldo to Old Trafford. But these positives have not transpired into the managerial stage and who knows, he may be back sharing a glass or two of Chianti with Sir Alex before the year is out.

rondwisan 17-09-2009 10:29 AM

Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
akankah dia kembali ke Old Trafford .... :-/:-/:-/
__________________________________________________

Will Carlos Queiroz be back at Old Trafford Soon?
epltalk.com - David Schiavone - September 15, 2009

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...08_692200a.jpg

With Portugal on the verge of non-qualification for the World Cup in 2010, manager Carlos Queiroz is under extreme pressure and has the very real possibility of unemployment looming over him. Given this threat, and inevitability that this will occur, I ask you… How long before we see the Portuguese back in the Manchester United dugout alongside Sir Alex Ferguson?

With Portugal lying fourth in their World Cup qualifying group with only ten points from seven matches. Going into the qualification group as favourites, the current state of affairs comes as a real shock for the Euro 2008 quarter-finalists.

Denmark have more or less qualified for the World Cup with Hungary and Sweden in equally strong positions. It was imperative the Portuguese overcame Hungary in the last match, but even still, the jobcentre still looms large for Queiroz.

With Portugal lying third in Group A, level on points with fourth placed Hungary and two points behind Sweden who lie second. With two games remaining Portugal face Hungary and Malta, both in Portugal, nothing less than six points from these games will do. But Sweden do have a relatively straightforward fixture with Albania, before which, they play Denmark, a game that will decide the fate of Carlos.

Queiroz therefore may be looking for new employment sooner rather than later and the Old Trafford bench is a familiar environment, one where he has had success in the past as well.

During his first reign sat beside Ferguson for only one year but managed to help the Old Trafford side win the Premier League title on season 02/03, before being poached by Real Madrid. It was after an unsuccessful year in Madrid that he was brought back to Old Trafford by Ferguson to begin an extremely successful four-year reign as assistant manager.

As a number one, Queiroz is terrible, making mistake after mistake. He is also accountable for Portugal’s failure to qualify for Euro ’92 and after taking over a very talented Sporting Lisbon team, led them to three seasons of failure and was promptly dismissed. After his first stint at Old Trafford, Real Madrid offered him a dream job, one that he could not turn down, and one that was a veritable disaster.

Sir Alex Ferguson welcomed the failed coach back to Old Trafford as his number two in July 2004 and so began a fruitful relationship. A number of trophies became housed at Old Trafford, including the 2008 Champions League trophy. Queiroz was seen as instrumental in United’s success, introducing new training methods and tactical plans that underpinned the Manchester United side of a few years back.

He also has an eye for talent spotting; he famously discovered Portugal’s so-called ‘Golden Generation’ and also had a hand in bringing Cristiano Ronaldo to Old Trafford. But these positives have not transpired into the managerial stage and who knows, he may be back sharing a glass or two of Chianti with Sir Alex before the year is out.

Tonny 24-09-2009 11:13 PM

Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Nah udah lama bgt si Opa Quieroz pergi dari Old Trafford....Jika kita memberikan pintu buat Opa Quireoz pa setuju ? karena kulitas skillnya gw udh gak ragu lagi cocok bgt buat gantiin Sir Alex suatu saat..

ferly_Liemz 24-09-2009 11:29 PM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonny (Post 39823)
Nah udah lama bgt si Opa Quieroz pergi dari Old Trafford....Jika kita memberikan pintu buat Opa Quireoz pa setuju ? karena kulitas skillnya gw udh gak ragu lagi cocok bgt buat gantiin Sir Alex suatu saat..

hummm gw seh pkr ud cukup deh masa nya si quieroz di United..kl buat kembali jd coach ato assisten di United seh its ok lah,ato mungkin di posisi lain..
tapi kl buat jadi suksesor opa seh gw gak yakin dia sanggup..
bukankah dia flop banget saat latih Madrid dan skrg jg demikian dengan Portugalnya:hammer:
gw seh ga pernah kepikir dia balik kandang lagi ke kita... krn aneh aja kesannya,sukses di United trus cabut jd manager..kemudian Flop di madrid dan balik lagi ke United..sukses lagi di United trus Cabut lagi jadi manager Portugal dan sampai skrg gw bs blg kl dia Flop di timnas portugal:hammer::hammer:
trus dia balik lagi gt Ke United agar bisa pindah lagi nanti??
malah jd terkesan gak punya visi hidup yang jelas bgt dia nya...:nohope:

dhona.7 24-09-2009 11:32 PM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
setuju... ^x^

Tomtom 24-09-2009 11:38 PM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhona.7 (Post 39831)
setuju... ^x^

hadooohh.....demen amat jadi one liner sih bro....!!!
kalo cuma setuju mah klik thanks aja....gw perhatiin tiap posting gini terus loe....
jangan keterusan bro kayak gini....nggak bagus...:army:

drivemein 24-09-2009 11:52 PM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhona.7 (Post 39831)
setuju... ^x^

Apa alasan nya bs setuju bro??? :peace:
Klo gw seh kurang setuju, klo balik lg jd asisten manajer seh boleh" saja.

Sedikit data dari C.Queiroz

Full name : Carlos Queiroz
Date of birth : 1 March 1953 (1953-03-01) (age 56)
Place of birth : Nampula, Portuguese East Africa
Playing position : Forward

Current club : Portugal (manager)
Teams managed
Years Club
1990–1991 Portugal U20
1991–1993 Portugal
1994–1996 Sporting CP
1996 NY/NJ MetroStars
1996–1997 Nagoya Grampus Eight
1999 United Arab Emirates
2000–2002 South Africa
2002–2003 Manchester United (assistant)
2003–2004 Real Madrid
2004–2008 Manchester United (assistant)
2008– Portugal

B.Robson kan jd manajer Thailand.
Mgkn karir Carloz Quieroz berikutnya dpt melatih timnas Indonesia. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
Tp semoga Carloz Quieroz dpt membawa Portugal lolos ke WC 2010. :beer:

RedRob 24-09-2009 11:56 PM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
yup.... wacana ini mulai naik lagi nih...

Queiroz emang kayanya gak terlalu produktif kalo jadi manajer utama ya... selalu terseok-seok....

di level tim junior emang dia punya prestasi bagus dan disebut-sebut penemu generasi emasnya Portugal (Figo, Rui Costa, Couto, dll) tapi untuk level senior baik di klub maupun timnas namanya belum terlalu mentereng... di Madrid dia juga gagal.. walau sebenernya, imo, kegagalannya lebih ke campur tangan berlebih dari manajemen terhadap otoritas dia sebagai manajer tim... di Portugal pun saat ini harus diakui sepak terjangnya gak terlalu impresif...

di sisi lain, duet Fergie dan Queiroz terbukti ampuh dan membawa prestasi... ga heran wacana ini kembali favorit jadi salah satu topik perbincangan..

so, menurut gw ide untuk membawa lagi Queiroz ke United bukan ide yang jelek... cuma jadi terlihat kurang elegan aja... apalagi sekarang Mike Phelan juga melakukan tugasnya dengan baik sebagai orang kedua setelah Fergie... trus nanti mau dikemanain doi..? kasian banget kalau harus turun jabatan untuk mengakomodir Queiroz..

tapi kalau Queiroz masuk ke dalam bursa pengganti Fergie, itu lain cerita.. bisa aja dia nanti jadi salah satu kandidat.... we'll see....

GL zone 25-09-2009 12:02 AM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
waah....kalo gw sih setuju2 aja
bakalan bisa ngeliat duet maut lagi nih
hehehe...

tapi apa fergie ny mau kalo quieroz balik lagi??

gravedigga 25-09-2009 12:07 AM

Re: Setujukah Bila Carloz Quieroz bersanding lagi dengan Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRob (Post 39847)

so, menurut gw ide untuk membawa lagi Queiroz ke United bukan ide yang jelek... cuma jadi terlihat kurang elegan aja... apalagi sekarang Mike Phelan juga melakukan tugasnya dengan baik sebagai orang kedua setelah Fergie... trus nanti mau dikemanain doi..? kasian banget kalau harus turun jabatan untuk mengakomodir Queiroz..
..

ini jg yang gue pikirin...Mike Phelan ditaruh dimana toh dia jg sepertinya menjalankan tugas dng baik ( kt emang ga terlalu tau sih apa aja detail2 yg udah dia lakukan ).


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