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wira_ozora 24-04-2017 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by tumpal_oneunited (Post 677105)
Untuk match ini Mou udh bilang kalo Pogba ga bisa main.
Terus dari sisi lawan, tadi mlm aguero tampaknya cedera juga.
Semoga United MENANG. Amin. :)

Kembali mengingat memori di saat United bawa 3 poin dari ettihad dengan gol free kick caem dari RvP.

Bagus lah kalo Aguero juga cedera,,kemungkinan besar diganti Iheanacho...lbh gampang diantisipasi. Dengan cederanya Pogba,,kemungkinan Carrick yg bakal ganti'in. Mikhi juga sebaiknya turun dari awal bwd support Rashford di depan.

De Gea
Bailly Blind Darmian
Vale Fella Carrick Herrera Young

Kemenangan akan membawa MU ke posisi 4 n geser City...semoga MU menang.

Riskur 25-04-2017 09:09 AM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United
Selamat datang di 3 besar United :D

zudomiriku 25-04-2017 09:55 AM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United
Jose Mourinho vs Pep Guardiola: Is the Manchester United manager starting to out-shine his Manchester City rival?

* Manchester City host Manchester United in the Premier League on Thursday
* Both clubs are involved in a tight fight to secure a place in the top four
* Fourth-placed City are one point ahead of fifth-placed United after 32 games

It has taken 10 months for Jose Mourinho’s rivalry with Pep Guardiola to come to the boil as they prepare to do battle in Thursday’s pivotal Manchester derby at the Etihad.

The very fact that two of the world’s top coaches are scrambling for a top-four place in the Premier League is an indication that the season has not gone entirely to plan.

The title race and FA Cup final will be fought out between the London clubs, relegating Mourinho’s highly-anticipated duel with Guardiola to little more than a sideshow.

There is still a huge amount at stake, however, with both men desperate to end their first season in Manchester with a Champions League place.

Sportsmail looks at how they have done so far.

Assess the season up to this point...

Jose Mourinho: If the United manager can add the Europa League to the League Cup and Community Shield — ‘two and a half trophies’ as he would say — there won’t be too many complaints around Old Trafford.

Crucially, it would secure automatic qualification for the Champions League regardless of United’s attempts to finish in the top four over the next month.

Even so, Mourinho began the season talking up a title challenge that has never materialised. That has to improve next time. 6/10

Pep Guardiola: Sunday’s FA Cup semi-final defeat to Arsenal means Guardiola will finish a season empty-handed for the first time in a decorated coaching career after starting off with 10 straight wins, and he accepts that City’s owners in Abu Dhabi will be disappointed.

They criticised Manuel Pellegrini last year despite reaching the last four of the Champions League, winning the League Cup and finishing fourth.
The latter of those achievements is now the bare minimum for Guardiola or his first season at the Etihad will be written off as a disaster after such high expectations. 4/10


Mourinho waves to the fans as he lifts the EFL Cup after beating Southampton

Have their summer signings worked out?

Mourinho: By signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic and breaking the world transfer record to buy Paul Pogba, United did their best to steal the limelight from City last summer.

Ibrahimovic’s 28-goal haul before he suffered a season-ending knee injury speaks for itself, but Pogba has struggled to justify his £89m price tag despite playing in a number of positions.

Eric Bailly’s importance to United’s defence increases with every passing week, and Henrikh Mkhitaryan has earned his popularity despite Mourinho’s slight indifference to the Armenian. 7/10

Guardiola: Gabriel Jesus and Leroy Sane fit the Guardiola mould of exciting, explosive forwards, and that is one area of the team that looks very healthy under the Spaniard. Nolito less so, and the £13.8m signing has not started a league game in 2017.

The jury is still out on Ilkay Gundogan, who was recovering from knee surgery when he arrived and suffered a fresh injury in December, while John Stones’ education under Guardiola remains a work in progress.

The decision to bring in Claudio Bravo as a replacement for Joe Hart has been less successful, however. The distribution from the back may be slightly better but Bravo’s shot-stopping has not been good enough. 5.5/10

How have they handled the players they inherited?

Mourinho: Typically, Mourinho has not shied away from confrontation or criticism of his players as Luke Shaw and Anthony Martial have discovered. Chris Smalling and Phil Jones have also come under fire recently.

But it’s undoubtedly a happier camp than under the strict regime imposed by Louis van Gaal.

Juan Mata has prospered despite concerns over his history with Mourinho and Ander Herrera has emerged as a key figure.

There have been concerns that Martial and Marcus Rashford were stagnating but the latter, at least, has started to show real signs of progress again. 6/10

Mourinho stands in the tunnel with his players prior to the Burnley game at Turf Moor

Guardiola: Raheem Sterling has benefitted from Guardiola’s guidance this season, and the coach should also be commended for his astute handling of Yaya Toure.

But the failure to do more to strengthen an ageing and creaking defence has undermined City from the start, particularly when you consider Guardiola’s use of attacking full backs in the past.

His uneasy relationship with Sergio Aguero is also an area of concern. 6/10

What about the style of play?

Mourinho: The former Chelsea manager has been more sympathetic to United’s attacking principles than some expected.

Indeed, had his team made the most of their chances in 12 league draws this season — nine of them at home — they would be going to the Etihad on Thursday in a very different position. 7/10

Guardiola: There have been times this season when Guardiola’s critics have accused him of trying to be too clever for his own good and sticking to his principles rather than the basics.

City in full flow are still a joy to watch but they need to be a more solid unit. 7/10

How have they done in Europe?

Mourinho: Mourinho started off the season admitting he didn’t want to be in the Europa League but says he would rather end it by lifting the trophy in Stockholm next month than finish in the top four.

It’s been an arduous campaign and he has done well to combine it with United’s Premier League commitments. 8/10

Guardiola: The two-time Champions League winner may talk about City’s lack of ‘history’ in Europe, but he inherited a team that lost in the semi-finals to eventual winners Real Madrid last season and then suffered a last-16 defeat by Monaco this season. A big disappointment. 5/10

Mourinho issues instructions to his players during the Europa League win over Anderlecht

How have they coped with the pressure?

Mourinho: Mourinho appeared to be losing his cool when he was sent to the stands twice in the space of six games against West Ham and Burnley in the first half of the season, but he has been a more composed figure since then. 6/10

Guardiola: Although Guardiola can come across as rather awkward at times, he mocks the notion that he will somehow transform English football.
His honesty and reluctance to criticise officials is also refreshing for a coach who is less familiar with failure than most. 7/10

Just one point separates the two rivals in the league with six games left to play



Andi Istiabudi 25-04-2017 09:18 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United


When is the big game? Manchester United’s Premier League clash against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium kicks off at 20:00 BST on Thursday, yes Thursday, 27 April.

How can I watch it? It will be televised live on Sky Sports in the UK. If you want your derby coverage to be a little more partisan, you can follow the action via ManUtd.com's live match blog and @ManUtd on Twitter. MUTV subscribers in the UK & Ireland and worldwide users of the MUTV App on iOS and Android can tune in to Match Day Live from 19:00 BST for all the build-up and then listen to live radio commentary, before watching the 90 minutes in full from midnight.

So this is a chance for us to break into the top four… Indeed it is. The professional 2-0 win at Burnley on Sunday put United a point behind City in the Premier League table with six games left, so if we were to come away with the spoils from the four-mile trip to the other side of town on Thursday, we’d leapfrog them into the Champions League qualification places. Read more about the top-four permutations in ManUtd.com’s feature.

The Blues will be smarting after the weekend, won’t they? You’d think so. Despite taking the lead in their Emirates FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal at Wembley, they succumbed to a 2-1 extra-time defeat that leaves Pep Guardiola almost certain to end a season without a trophy for the first time in his coaching career. His opposite number Jose Mourinho will doubtless be priming his charges to be fully prepared for a backlash on Thursday.

Any early team news for United? We know Marcos Rojo and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are out with knee ligament damage, while Mourinho is unsure if Paul Pogba will be available after the Frenchman was forced off late on at Turf Moor. Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and Juan Mata remain sidelined. The boss made eight changes at Burnley and will likely freshen up his team again at the Etihad Stadium, with the visit of Swansea City to follow three days later and then the Europa League semi-final first leg at Celta Vigo. One man who is set to return for the Reds is in-form right-back Antonio Valencia, who was rested on Sunday, while Anthony Martial will hope to be involved after an impressive goalscoring appearance at Burnley.

What about City – I heard Aguero and Silva are doubtful? Yes, key playmaker David Silva was substituted midway through the first half of their cup semi at Wembley and Sergio Aguero, who opened the scoring, also picked up a knock and came off in extra time. Fernandinho is also a doubt, while John Stones, Gabriel Jesus and Bacary Sagna all face a race to be fit.

How have we fared at their place recently? Overall, United have won seven games, drawn one and lost seven at the Etihad Stadium, and last season’s visit resulted in a joyous 1-0 triumph, thanks to a strike from Marcus Rashford, who could be charged with leading the line again on Thursday. Wayne Rooney, who marked his first start since early March by scoring in the win at Burnley, has netted seven goals for United at City’s home over the years.

And it’s one apiece in the two derbies so far this term, right? Yep. City claimed the bragging rights with a 2-1 league win at Old Trafford in September but we gained a measure of revenge the following month by knocking them out of the EFL Cup, with Mata’s goal securing a 1-0 home victory.

When was the last time the Manchester derby was played on a Thursday night? It was the famous 5-0 thrashing of the Blues at Old Trafford on 10 November 1994, when Andrei Kanchelskis bagged a hat-trick. This season’s away derby was originally scheduled for the weekend of the EFL Cup final in February but was rearranged for Thursday this week, with Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur already selected for Wednesday's live TV slot on Sky Sports.

Any other trivia for me? Should United draw or win on Thursday, we will equal our longest unbeaten top-flight run in a single season (24 matches in 2010/11). It’s an impressive run that goes all the way back to the defeat at Chelsea in October.

What has Jose said ahead of the game? "There is one point [between the teams] so the situation is open but Man City has to play Premier League football and we have to play in the semi-finals of a European competition. Yes, it’s an objective to try to finish in the top four but my feeling is that this club is made to win trophies. In the Premier League, we cannot win it. In the Europa League, we have a 25 per cent chance of winning it. So, I think we have to put everything into the Europa League."


GUNGZ-HO 26-04-2017 12:50 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United
mau tanya,TV lokal mana yang nayangin derby 4 besar :D :malu:

Riskur 26-04-2017 12:58 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United

Originally Posted by GUNGZ-HO (Post 677192)
mau tanya,TV lokal mana yang nayangin derby 4 besar :D :malu:

kmren pernah liat kalau derby akan di tayangin di MNC TV om :peace:

fredrian.seven 26-04-2017 02:24 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United

Derby Manchester:
Manchester City vs Manchester United
Jumat, 28 April 2017
Kickoff jam 02:00 WIB
[Forum Satelit]

Andi Istiabudi 26-04-2017 10:10 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United


Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has confirmed Antonio Valencia and Ander Herrera are fit and available for Thursday’s derby showdown with Manchester City, but Paul Pogba is set to miss out.

In-form Valencia was rested for Sunday’s 2-0 win at Burnley, where Pogba had to leave the field late on and was replaced by Michael Carrick.

United are a point behind fourth-placed City ahead of the Etihad Stadium encounter and at his pree-match press conference on Wednesday, Mourinho was asked which players were coming back into his side.

“Valencia,” said the boss, who was already without Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Marcos Rojo, Juan Mata, Chris Smalling and Phil Jones through injury. “We go with what we have and we fight with what we have.

“I trust the boys and we go with everything we have until the last second of the season, we hope. We are fighters, the boys are fighters, and we go.”

When asked if Pogba and Herrera were fit, the manager replied: “Paul, no. Herrera, yes.”

United would go above City in the table for the first time since August with a victory but Mourinho is only concerned with finishing in the top four, not the crosstown rivalry.

“It means nothing,” he said. “If we finish fifth and they finish sixth, it means nothing. If they finish third and we finish fourth, they are above us but it means a lot.

“This is not about Pep [Guardiola], this is not about City, this is about objectives and we want to try to play Champions League football. We still have two doors open.”


fredrian.seven 26-04-2017 10:20 PM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United
Nggak Mou nggak Van Gaal kok cerita2 klo si A cedera si B fit. Kok nggak diem aja gitu. Seingatku pas jaman Fergie dia diem2 aja masalah fisik pemain. Nggak pernah cerita siapa yg fit dan siapa yg kemungkinan absen.

fredrian.seven 27-04-2017 08:53 AM

Re: [EPL] Manchester City vs Manchester United
Confirmed United squad members :
David de Gea
Sergio Romero
Joel Pereira
Antonio Valencia
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
Matteo Darmian
Eric Bailly
Axel Tuanzebe
Daley Blind
Luke Shaw
Marouane Fellaini
Michael Carrick
Ander Herrera
Ashley Young
Jesse Lingard
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
Marcus Rashford
Anthony Martial
Wayne Rooney

Beneran tanpa Pogba :((

Jadi, 4231 atau 433? Duo Herrera Fellaini atau trio Herrera Fellaini Carrick? Terserah taktik Mou yang penting WR10 di bangku cadangan aja. Moga taktik brilian Mou muncul lagi di pertandingan nanti malam. Menuju posisi 3 dengan kemenangan margin 3 gol. :devil2:

Klo ada hal yang bikin kecewa dari Mou sih masalah rotasi pemain kepercayaan ke pemain muda. Terlalu takut buat merotasi pemain dengan pemain muda. Cuma bisa berandai-andai klo 10 menit terakhir pertandingan vs Burnley ngasih waktu istirahat buat Pogba. Skor udah relatif aman buat United.

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