Official, David Moyes, Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden leaves Manchester United

[red_girl_mia]

terpaksa manager interim sampai 5 musim #eh )

[J. A. Adji]

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Manager jagoan om Adji sudah dikalahkan Ronaldo cs, jadi "calon" manager yang akan menangkan UCL tinggal ada Mourinho, Simeone & Ancelloti. Mou sudah bilang gak akan tinggalkan Chelsea demi United, Ancelotti juga demikian untuk Madrid, tinggal ada Simeone yang masih dibenci public Inggris karena kasus dengan Beckham dulu. Nah?

Manager jagoan saya? hehehe...

Perasaan di forum tetangga yang lagi rame, ane gak ada menyebut nama Pep, coba dibaca lagi. Bahkan semalam sebelum Bayern diselesaikan madrid, ane posting empat nama manajer jagoan ane diantaranya Giggs, LVG, Conte dan Rudi Garcia.

Trus diakhir postingan ane janji (yang belum sempat ane lakuin) masih ada tiga manajer jagoan ane yang lagi berlaga di semi UCL, tiga nama itu adalah Ancelotti, Mourinho sama Simeone. om Troy boleh cek di trit sebelah postingan ane kemarin dan jam-nya. Di postingan ane itu gak ada nama Pep om.

Soal Mourinho n Ancelotti bicara gak akan meninggalkan Chelsea dan Madrid untuk MU? Masa sih om troy percaya gitu aja?

Kan gak mungkin Ancelotti bilang dia siap jadi manajer MU musim depan, bisa2 skor 0-4 tadi malam jadi kebalik lagi gara2 timnya galau. Gitu juga sama Mourinho.

Please d om troy, Mou sama Ancelotti itu masih ngincar gelar juara sama Chelsea dan Madrid sampai akhir musim. Mereka masih perlu menjaga mental timnya. Ane justru gak akan setuju ama keduanya klo mereka sampai dengan 'bodoh' mengatakan akan ke MU padahal timnya sedang berjuang merebut gelar.

MU butuh manajer yang seperti Mou n Ancelotti yang bisa menguasai media dengan baik dan tahu bagaimana menjaga mental pemain.

[fredrian.seven]

Om @troy andreas; manajer paporit om @J. A. Adji; tuh Antonio Conte.

[J. A. Adji]

Originally Posted by fredrian.seven

Om @troy andreas; manajer paporit om @J. A. Adji; tuh Antonio Conte.

Nama2 manajer favorit saya ada di trit sebelah, n bener Antonio Conte salah satunya. Alasannya karena Conte sudah terbukti tokcer mengembalikan tim yang terpuruk kembali ke jalur juara.

Tapi yang buat ane suka sama Conte yaitu cara dia mengkombinasikan pemain tua muda di Juve. Cocok kan sama MU yang juga diisi pemain tua dan muda

Dengan alasan yang sama juga ane suka sama Rudi Garcia. Emang sih namanya jarang muncul di media. N kemungkinannya jadi manajer MU juga kecil banget. Tapi Garcia juga punya pengalaman mendobrak dominasi klub besar di prancis dan berhasil mengangkat roma yang terpuruk musim sebelumnya sebentar saja. Dan tentu saja karena doi terbukti sanggup menggabungkan tua muda, serta menghidupkan kembali pemain yang sudah dianggap habis

Jadi curhat di salah trit dah ane

[troy andreas]

Originally Posted by J. A. Adji

Manager jagoan saya? hehehe...

Perasaan di forum tetangga yang lagi rame, ane gak ada menyebut nama Pep, coba dibaca lagi. Bahkan semalam sebelum Bayern diselesaikan madrid, ane posting empat nama manajer jagoan ane diantaranya Giggs, LVG, Conte dan Rudi Garcia.

Trus diakhir postingan ane janji (yang belum sempat ane lakuin) masih ada tiga manajer jagoan ane yang lagi berlaga di semi UCL, tiga nama itu adalah Ancelotti, Mourinho sama Simeone. om Troy boleh cek di trit sebelah postingan ane kemarin dan jam-nya. Di postingan ane itu gak ada nama Pep om.

Soal Mourinho n Ancelotti bicara gak akan meninggalkan Chelsea dan Madrid untuk MU? Masa sih om troy percaya gitu aja?

Kan gak mungkin Ancelotti bilang dia siap jadi manajer MU musim depan, bisa2 skor 0-4 tadi malam jadi kebalik lagi gara2 timnya galau. Gitu juga sama Mourinho.

Please d om troy, Mou sama Ancelotti itu masih ngincar gelar juara sama Chelsea dan Madrid sampai akhir musim. Mereka masih perlu menjaga mental timnya. Ane justru gak akan setuju ama keduanya klo mereka sampai dengan 'bodoh' mengatakan akan ke MU padahal timnya sedang berjuang merebut gelar.

MU butuh manajer yang seperti Mou n Ancelotti yang bisa menguasai media dengan baik dan tahu bagaimana menjaga mental pemain.

Originally Posted by fredrian.seven

Om troy andreas; manajer paporit om @J. A. Adji; tuh Antonio Conte.

Saya sudah lama tidak main ke forum sebelah om, jg kalau kesana gak tau user name om Adji disana jadi memang saya gak tau apa yang om Adji tulis disana. Tapi diatas om Adji bilang soal calon manager United:

Apalagi manajer yang baru saja membawa timnya juara UCL, biasanya mereka mencari tantangan baru (Karena yang seperti Ferguson itu gak banyak hari gini). Lihat saja Guordiola yang sudah mapan bersama Barca memutuskan untuk tidak memperpanjang kontrak. Manajer itu cukup diiming2 dengan gaji bagus dan uang belanja yang bagus mereka bisa mudah pindah ke lain hati. Yang penting nawarinnya pas mereka sudah selesai dengan semua kompetisi, jadi gak menganggu konsentrasi mereka.

Jadi saya berpikirnya Guardiola (Munchen), Ancelotti (Madrid), Mourinho (Chelsea) & Simeone (Atletico). Gak disebut calon juara Limajum kan?

Kalau Conte saya masih ingat postingan om Adji itu, tapi skali lagi saya pernah berbincang dengan teman aktifis forum Juventini soal Conte ke United, dia ketawa & bilang gak mungkin dengan alasan- alasan yang masuk akal, salah satunya Conte terlalu cinta Juve dibanding cari prestasi pribadi sebagai manager kaya Guardiola yang tinggalkan Barca.

Hanya coba realistis saja dengan alasan tersebut, saya pun jadi percaya.

Soal Mou & Ancelotti, saya juga gak akan menolak mereka seandainya mereka jadi manager United, tapi saya coba realistis saja dengan kemungkinan yang ada, unggulan terbesar yang beredar sejauh ini hanya ada LVG & Giggs, belum lagi pilihan fans kebanyakan yang jatuh pada nama Jurgen Klopp.

[Adum saleh]

Originally Posted by troy andreas

Saya sudah lama tidak main ke forum sebelah om, jg kalau kesana gak tau user name om Adji disana jadi memang saya gak tau apa yang om Adji tulis disana. Tapi diatas om Adji bilang soal calon manager United:



Jadi saya berpikirnya Guardiola (Munchen), Ancelotti (Madrid), Mourinho (Chelsea) & Simeone (Atletico). Gak disebut calon juara Limajum kan?

Kalau Conte saya masih ingat postingan om Adji itu, tapi skali lagi saya pernah berbincang dengan teman aktifis forum Juventini soal Conte ke United, dia ketawa & bilang gak mungkin dengan alasan- alasan yang masuk akal, salah satunya Conte terlalu cinta Juve dibanding cari prestasi pribadi sebagai manager kaya Guardiola yang tinggalkan Barca.

Hanya coba realistis saja dengan alasan tersebut, saya pun jadi percaya.

Soal Mou & Ancelotti, saya juga gak akan menolak mereka seandainya mereka jadi manager United, tapi saya coba realistis saja dengan kemungkinan yang ada, unggulan terbesar yang beredar sejauh ini hanya ada LVG & Giggs, belum lagi pilihan fans kebanyakan yang jatuh pada nama Jurgen Klopp.

Siapapun manajer musim depan. itu lah yang terbaik bagi #GGMU

[fredrian.seven]

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Who is to blame for Moyes' sacking: Ferguson, the Glazers or Woodward?
theguardian.com - Owen Gibson

Few could argue that David Moyes was not ultimately the architect of his own downfall. But he was far from the only person culpable in a comedy of errors that has seen England's biggest club plummet from league champions to also-rans within 10 tumultuous months.

Moyes lost the players, the fans and –finally – the boardroom through an inability to show that he was making progress on the pitch. That forced the hand of the club's absentee owners as they contemplated a long overdue rebuilding operation and concluded the former Everton manager could not be trusted to oversee it. In the end, they had no option. But it was as much their mistakes as those of Moyes that led them to day's cursory announcement.

Peer through the blizzard of meaningless statistics (David Moyes has the second-highest win percentage of any United manager; David Moyes has the lowest points total of the Premier League era), past the memory of the haunted faces in the dugout and the ever louder whispers of discontent from the dressing room, and the reasons for the malaise at Old Trafford go far deeper than just one man.

In calculating the final cost of the end of an error – which will be measured in more than just points, pounds and pence – there are more than a few mitigating factors at play. Like a slow motion car crash, there has been an inevitability about the way the season has panned out since the summer.

The role of the club's inscrutable American owners, still reviled by large sections of their own fanbase for an ownership model that has cost the club more than £650m in fees and interest, will again come under the microscope. So too, will that of vice chairman Ed Woodward.

The former investment banker was lauded as a commercial genius for minting the segmented overseas sponsorship strategy that allowed the Glazers to keep the tills ringing, service their debt and enjoy continued success on the pitch while Ferguson remained in post. So now he must accept the brickbats for a catalogue of missteps since taking over from David Gill in the top job last summer.

Sitting in his Mayfair office, Woodward once gave assurances that there was a well-considered plan tucked away in his desk drawer for when Ferguson's departure came. If that was ever the case, its execution left much to be desired.

And, of course, there is Ferguson himself. For all that the Glazers and the board erred in allowing him to effectively choose his own successor – a situation it is hard to imagine arising in any other major business – Moyes will go down in history as Ferguson's short lived "chosen one".

In his book, Ferguson said Moyes would have "no trouble embracing our traditions" and said the Glazers were impressed by the fact he was a "straight talker". In both cases, the opposite proved to be true as his fellow Scot failed to embrace the club's attacking traditions on the pitch and cut an ever more impassive, beleaguered figure off it.

Whether on some unconscious level Ferguson chose a successor who he saw as the closest available facsimile of his own approach to life and management, or even one who would not immediately dismantle his empire as a José Mourinho may have done, is one for the psychologists. What is clear is that it suited the Glazers to position the appointment as Ferguson's choice alone.

For many fans, the culpability of Ferguson – the man who gave them 38 trophies in 28 years – runs deeper still. It was the Scot who defended the Glazer model to the hilt even as Old Trafford rocked to "green and gold" protests and insisted that the cash being paid out to service debts, that at one stage hit £716.5m and now stand at £356.6m, had not harmed his ability to compete in the transfer market.

One scene sums up United's desperate season and it speaks volumes that it features Ferguson rather than Moyes: the club's most successful manager being barracked in the stands by home fans during the humiliating home defeat to neighbours Manchester City.

Even as his managerial genius allowed him to wring the last drops of success out of an ageing squad, winning his final title with a flourish, it was clear that Ferguson had left his successor a stack of problems. Long term under-investment in the squad had left it threadbare and Moyes could be heard complaining about the hand he had been dealt as early as United's pre-season tour of Australia.

Those problems were undoubtedly exacerbated by the cack-handed handling of the succession in the boardroom as well as the dugout. The Glazers had known since the previous February that both Gill and Ferguson would be moving on.

And yet arguably the most important summer in the club's recent history was left in the hands of two men with no knowledge of the top end of the European transfer market, culminating in the tragi-comic deadline day pursuit of Ander Herrera, fake representatives and all. The subsequent January capture of Juan Mata was hailed as a coup but gave off more than a whiff of panic.

Moyes' decision to dispense with Ferguson's backroom staff and bring in his own men meant in one summer much of the collective wisdom of the Ferguson era either walked out of the door or was left to sit impassively in the stands as things unravelled around them.

Whereas Moyes was the master of all he surveyed at Everton's Finch Farm training complex and inspired loyalty from those around him, at Manchester United he appeared unable to delegate or to focus on what mattered. Meanwhile, what little authority he had ebbed away.

As flagged up in the small print of the succession of bewildering loan agreements, bond issues, refinancing and stock market flotations since they bought United in 2005, the certainty of having to one day deal with the "succession issue" was the main cloud hanging over the Glazers' feat of financial engineering.

And yet they badly mishandled the first big call of their controversial nine-year tenure.

The Glazers will arrive in Manchester next week to oversee a recruitment process that they know they – and Woodward – can't afford to get wrong for a second time. On his most recent conference call, Woodward was keen to emphasise the extent to which Liverpool had been able to maintain their commercial clout despite their comparative lack of success in recent years.

Yet rather than looking to Anfield for succour, the last two decades at Liverpool should act as a loud warning siren against how far and how fast a seemingly impregnable empire can fall.

And, more than anyone, Woodward will be only too aware of the potential implications for the bottom line if they don't rejoin Europe's top table within a season. In some ways, the new Financial Fair Play era makes it even more imperative to maintain their place among the elite.

Even as talks over a new $1bn kit deal drag on, with those close to the process said to be weary of United's hardline negotiating stance, their legions of sales staff will be already digesting the possible damage the last 12 months have done to the United "brand".

Built on romance and doing things "the United way" but then remorselessly sliced, diced and sold around the world, the longer-term damage to that DNA of a chaotic season that has left the Ferguson succession plan trumpeted by Woodward crumpled and discarded may yet be worse still.

[J. A. Adji]

Gak perlu orangnya, patungnya aja sudah cukup untuk bawa sial di Anfield.

[Redsbusby]

Uda lama lewat ya, tp tetep aja gw ngerasa eneg dgn bagaimana manajemen keluarin moyes gitu aja.. Oh, modern football!!!!