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Old 18-09-2011, 08:35 PM   #441
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Lebih besar mana sih ? Dividen utk pemegang saham atau bunga pinjaman ? Yang mana yg lebih murah , itulah yg dipilih donk ya

Qatar ? Gw bingung . Bukannya PSG juga sahamnya dimiliki oleh orang Qatar ya ? Sama nggak , dng calon investor United ? Kalau sama , bukannya ada aturan orang tidak boleh punya saham lebih dr 50% di klub yg berada pada 1 federasi (misal : UEFA , AFC , dll)

Bingung ah ...
Mungkin bisa sedikit ngasih penjelasan (versi diri sendiri yang pasti nggak valid dan hanya dari mbaca2 aja).

Ada quote dari andersred tentang pertanyaan "Lebih besar mana sih ? Dividen utk pemegang saham atau bunga pinjaman ? Yang mana yg lebih murah , itulah yg dipilih donk ya ".

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What will the club's policy on dividends be?
This is crucial as paying down debt and reducing the £45m interest bill doesn't improve the club's financial position if interest payments are just replaced by dividend payments. The club does not have to pay dividends post flotation, but twenty eight of the the thirty companies in Singapores's Straits Times Index (the "STI", the equivalent of the FTSE) do. The STI yields over 3%. If United had a market capitalisation of (say) £1.2bn, and yielded 3%, that's an annual dividend bill of around £36m.
Klo dari penjelasan Andy diatas besar bunga pinjaman dan deviden nggak jauh beda, 45jt dan 36jt pound meski untuk deviden bisa berubah2 tiap tahunnya tergantung pemegang saham (atau direksi ).

Klo menurut pendapatku ada positifnya utang dan ada positifnya ngelepas saham.

Positifnya utang... Bunga utang kan mengurangi penghasilan sebelum pajak, jadi dengan bunga gede maka pajak yang musti dibayar perusahaan makin kecil. Hanya saja dengan aturan finansial fair play yang akan diterapkan keberadaan hutang gede bisa jadi halangan meski pendapatan United sendiri gede.

Positifnya ngelepas saham jelas bisa dipake buat ngelunasi hutang dan bisa jadi modal belanja manajer. Hanya saja pengeluaran deviden kan tidak mengurangi penghasilan perusahaan sebelum pajak jadi ya kemungkinan besar pajak yang dibayarkan perusahaan makin besar dari klo ada pembayaran bunga.

Klo masalah Qatar, bener (klo nggak salah) mereka juga pemilik saham mayoritas PSG dan Malaga. Seingatku sih nggak masalah 1 pihak memiliki saham mayoritas lebih dari 1 klub di 1 federasi. Hanya jadi masalah klo 2 (atau lebih) klub itu sama2 bermain di ajang eropa yang sama (misalnya UCL). Itu baru (klo nggak salah) dilarang oleh UEFA.

Hal itu pernah terjadi pas Chelsea (yang dimiliki Abramovic) maen di UCL trus ada klub Rusia (lupa yang mana, tapi mungkin Zenit St. Petersburg) yang juga dimiliki Abramovic (atau perusahaannya) dan maen dikompetisi eropa. Hanya saja aku agak lupa gimana penyelesaiannya, tapi yang jelas kondisi itu (dimiliki oleh pihak yang sama) sempet jadi permasalahan.

Klo aku sih ingin dimiliki Qatar aja. Ngebayangin United bisa lebih leluasa ngeluarin duit buat beli pemaen manapun rasanya sip meski aku yakin Fergie nggak akan seedan mancio.
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versi indonesianya....maap kalau salah


Status Manchester United sebagai salah satu klub tersukses dan terkaya dunia rupanya menjadi incaran beberapa investor. Salah satunya adalah Keluarga Kerajaan Qatar.

Berdasarkan sumber internal keluarga kerajaan kepada Mirror, pendekatan sudah dilakukan kepada Keluarga Glazer. Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Tani bakal menjadi delegasi Keluarga Kerajaan Qatar untuk bernegosiasi pada Senin (19/9/2011) besok.

Ketertarikan Keluarga Kerajaan Qatar untuk mengambil alih Man. United tak lepas dari ketidaksukaan fans terhadap Malcom Glazer. Taipan asal Amerika Serikat itu dinilai fans menjalankan Red Devils dengan cara kontroversial. Termasuk dengan menggunakan utang pihak ketiga.

Besar tawaran Keluarga Kerajaan Qatar itu tidak tanggung-tangung. Konon, uang 1,5 juta pounds atau sebesar Rp 20 triliun disiapkan untuk mengambil alih Red Devils.

Ketertarikan itu tentu bisa menjadi sinyal positif bagi Sir Alex Ferguson. Dengan didukung oleh kekayaan melimpah, manajer Red Devils itu bisa bersaing dengan rival sekota, Manchester City, yang telah lebih dulu bergelimang uang dari pengusaha minyak asal Timur Tengah.

Sementara, rencana Glazer untuk melepas saham ke Bursa Saham Singapura (SEM) sudah mendapatkan lampu hijau. Rencananya, saham yang dilepas akan bernilai satu miliar dolar AS.
1,5 juta pounds itu bukannya 1,5 miliar pounds ya
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1,5 juta pounds itu bukannya 1,5 miliar pounds ya
maap g'tau bedanya,tulung dibantuyah....
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19/09/2011 17:16 - ManUtd.com, Nick Coppack
United sign Mister Potato



Sir Alex and six of his first-team stars joined together at Old Trafford to welcome the club's newest global partner, Mister Potato, to the United family.

Malaysian company Mamee-Double Decker owns more than 30 per cent of the snack food business in Malaysia, with Mister Potato the most popular snack brand in the country. As part of the deal, Mamee Noodles will also become an official partner in Asia, Oceania and the Middle East.

In time, it's anticipated canisters of the Mister Potato crisps will be sold inside the stadium on matchdays. For now, though, the product will feature new packaging in Asia, featuring imagery of some of United's biggest stars.

Mamee hope the partnership with Manchester United will help the company double its revenue by 2014. Chief Executive Officer Datuk Pang Tee Chew said: "A substantial portion of United fans are in Asia and we are looking to solidify our position as the number one stacked chip brand in the region."

Journalists and VIPs from Malaysia flew to Old Trafford for a special launch to mark the beginning of the three-year deal.

Speaking at the event, Sir Alex Ferguson recalled the club's most recent visit to Malaysia, in 2009.

"We look at Malaysia as one of our main areas of support," he said. "We had 35,000 people turn up to an open training session!

"The loyalty the fans there have shown us over many years has been fantastic and I hope this is the start of another long association. I'm sure our partnership with Mamee will be 100 per cent."

Michael Owen, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young, Mame Biram Diouf, Ji-sung Park and Antonio Valencia also attended the launch. They chatted, signed autographs and posed for pictures with the guests.
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PM Qatar Gerah Dikaitkan dengan United
Hendra Mujiraharja - Okezone

DOHA - Manchester United dikabarkan telah membuka peluang bagi investor lain untuk membeli Setan Merah. Namun, salah satu investor dari Qatar dengan tegas membantah telah melakukan penawaran untuk membeli juara bertahan Premier League itu.

Seperti diberitakan sebelumnya, Otoritas Singapore Stock Exchange memang telah mengizinkan kepada United untuk menjual sahamnya. Ini membuat Setan Merah diperbolehkan untuk melakukan negosiasi dengan investor lain.

Praktis, muncul sebuah berita mengenai Perdana Menteri Qatar heikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani, yang diberitakan telah berada di London, untuk melakukan negosiasi dengan juara 19 kali Premier League itu.

Tapi Sheikh Hamad, yang juga pemilik saham QIA, menegaskan tidak memiliki keinginan untuk membeli klub asal Premier League itu. "Berita itu tidak benar," tegas Sheikh Hamad dalam wawancara dengan tv Al Jazeera, Selasa (27/9/2011).

"Beberapa pekan lalu, kami sudah mengumumkan belum melakukan negosiasi. Banyak orang yang membicarakan Qatar akan membeli ini, dan itu," sambung pria yang juga PM Qatar tersebut.

Sementara itu, United memang belum merilis berapa jumlah saham yang akan dijual oleh keluarga Glazers. Namun, penguasaha asal Amerika diberitakan hanya menjual sekira 25 persen saham mereka di klub.

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wah semarak lagi neh scarf LUHG,......

saham,..saham,..saham,...
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Sebelumnya Qatar berhasil jadi sponsor Barca lho. Qatar tidak semakmur wilayah Arab lainnya seperti UEA, Dubai maupun Arab Saudi tapi dananya besar juga yach ...
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iya Om,.... d berita kan perpanjang klo gak salah Qatar Foundation ma Barca,....

tp klo gak salah d berita ntu,...setahu ane malah miskin Barca,...kok bisa yach,..????
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Saya perhatikan kalau tidak salah sudah 2 perusahaan asal Malaysia yang pernah menjadi sponsor Manchester United, yakni Air Asia dan yang terbaru Mister Potato. Sayang yach belum ada perusahaan Indonesia yang berani menawarkan diri menjadi sponsor United (keduluan Malaysia deh, hehehe...)
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negara kita msh takut Om,...cs lg nata negara yg carut marut sprt kutu kupret,...

mgkn swatu saat kali kta bs ikut jd sponsor,....tp btw 3 kan dr negara kita Om,.????? mpek skolah ini ibu BUDI,...
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