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Old 07-11-2016, 09:52 AM   #31
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gw ga ngerti gimana dengan formasi bek kaya gitu bisa menang

menurut gw formasi ini lebih baik daripada 4231, semalam gw liatnya formasinya

ddg
young-jones-rojo-darmian
mata-carrick-pogba
felaini-roo
ibra

dan formasi ini cukup efektif, beberapa kali ibra buka ruang dengan ambil bola ke belakang dan di kotak penalti ada felaini gw ampe kaget dia sering nongol di kotak penalti..

ini formasi mou ama rui faria ya? kl RF ya udah dia aja di bench dulu

pogba kembali ke posisi favoritnya, MC kiri..untuk SS dibelakang zlatan menurut gw banyak opsi dengan bisa ditandemkan juga miki, mata, martial, rashford, roo..

dengan formasi 3 MC seperti semalam lebih solid dan bisa memaksimalkan peran pogba-carrick-herera dengan morgan,felani dan basti sebagai backup..

dan kredit khusus untuk Roo, kalo diperhatiin badannya tidak segempal kemarin2, apakah dia diet dan staminanya lebih bagus daripada sebelum2nya.

ntah kenapa feeling gw lawan arsenal ntar 4231 lagi dengan pogba di AMC...

syuraaaaaaammmm...
Sama... aku juga kaget dengan susunan timnya. Tapi ya gol 1 dan 2 lebih pada skill individu dibanding skema serangan. Setelah gol 1 dan 2 ya mainnya passing pendek2 lewat tengah.

Ntar lawan Arsenal tinggal Herrera Rashford IN Fellaini Ibra OUT.

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Jika melihat proses terjadinya gol, Pogba tidak mengawal ketat pergerakan pemain Swansea. Berharap dengan perangkap offside malah kebobolan.

btw baru baca komentar Jose Mourinho, entah telah di bumbui media namun agak was-was juga kalau beneran ditujukan kepada Shaw mengingat musim ini Shaw kebanyak di cadangkan. Parah sebenarnya kalau pemain menolak main. Cuma agak gimana juga dengan desakan ala Mou, pernah sih merasakan jaman masih main basket dulu coach minta kita keluarkan penampilan terbaik walau cedera. Tapi yah smoga ga efek negatif ke Shaw.

http://www.squawka.com/news/jose-mou...sea-win/820085
Iya tuh. Di Redcafe banyak yg menduga yg dimaksud adalah Shaw. Kemungkinan ada 2, Shaw atau Martial. Tapi Martial masih ada di bench. Jadi kemungkinan besar yg dimaksud adalah Shaw.
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Mantab laah....MU balik ke jalur kemenangan n naik ke peringkat 6. Rooney keren mainnya di left wing,,2 assist bwd Ibra di 1st half. Akhirnya,,Pak Kapten mulai memberikan kontribusi lagi setelah flop sekian lama,,kynya pengaruh diet juga. Ibra absen lwn Arsenal...ga mslah,,time for Rashford n Herrera. Jomblo Ngenes alias Jones lumayan juga duet sm Rojo,,mdh2'an bs konsisten. 3 poin yg berharga,,naik ke peringkat 6. Next matches udah menanti Arsenal,WHU,n Everton...mdh2'an bs sapu bersih biar bs masuk zona UCL.
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Swansea 1-3 Manchester United PLAYER RATINGS: Wayne Rooney rolls back the years while Fernando Llorente flops for the Swans

* Manchester United got back to winning ways with victory over Swansea
* Star men Paul Pogba and Zlatan Ibrahimovic both got among the goals
* Ibrahimovic scored the 25,000th goal of the Premier League era


Manchester United got back to winning ways by defeating struggling Swansea and taking all three points away from their trip to South Wales.

Jose Mourinho's side, who were without a win in their last four Premier League games, stood up to their critics with big name stars Paul Pogba and Zlatan Ibrahimovic both getting on the score sheet.

Sportsmail's Mike Keegan delivers his player ratings from the Liberty Stadium.

SWANSEA CITY

Lukasz Fabianski 5.5
Powerless to prevent Pogba’s opener but could have done better with the second. Wobbly under the high ball.

Angel Rangel 5
Will not want to see Ibrahimovic’s second again. Suffered along with the rest of his defence.

Mike van der Hoorn 6
Rose well to power his header home but his work at his own end was not as pleasing on the eye.

Alfie Mawson 6
It’s a big step up from League One but the ex-Barnsley defender was the pick of the Swans backline. Hardly an accolade.

Stephen Kingsley 5.5
Kept Mata relatively quiet and the Scot will learn from this chastening first-half experience for the hosts.

Ki Sung-Yueng 5
Spent time at a military camp in the summer but was outmuscled here by the visitors powerful midfield.

Leon Britton 5
Worked hard but while his effort could not be faulted, fought a losing battle and was subbed with 20 minutes to go.

Wayne Routledge 4
Offered virtually no contribution in an anonymous opening 45 minutes. Yanked at the break.

Gylfi Sigurdsson 5.5
Beautiful delivery for Van der Hoorn’s header but otherwise struggled to have an impact. Will have better afternoons than this.

Fernando Llorente 4
Suffered from an absence of service and had very little impact before being substituted at half-time.

Borja 5
Stayed on for 90 minutes but could have been a victim of the half-time changes. Not great.

Subs:

Modou Barrow (Routledge 46) 5.5 Offered some pace and creativity but the game was over by the time he came off the bench.

Jefferson Montero (Llorente 46) 5 Easily marshalled by United’s defence. Appeared frustrated.

Leroy Fer (Britton 70) 5 Crunched by Ibrahimovic for his troubles and was unable to spark an unlikely comeback.

Not used: Kristoffer Nordfelt, Jordi Amat, Jack Cork, Kyle Naughton

Manager: Bob Bradley 4

MANCHESTER UNITED

David de Gea 6
Pipe and slippers time for the Spaniard who has had much, much tougher days at the office than this. Got a hand on Van der Hoorn’s header.

Ashley Young 6
Dependable presence at right back. Caused problems with his many, willing forward runs.


Ashley Young showed again how he has become a reliable full-back for the Red Devils

Phil Jones 6.5
His manager will have been impressed with the returning Englishman. Will face tougher opponents but gave a solid performance here.

Marcos Rojo 6.5
Gives the ball away a little too often, but was strong positionally and dealt with the very few questions the hosts asked with little fuss.

Matteo Darmian 6
Playing at left back and kept Routledge so quiet he was taken off at half-time. Barrow was more of a threat but a satisfactory showing from the Italian.

Marouane Fellaini 6.5
Matches like this, against tiny opponents, are made for the big Belgian. A menacing, physical force throughout.

Michael Carrick 7
Reassuring presence at the base of midfield. Dictated the tempo and provided a measured presence United have lacked.


Paul Pogba scored a stunning volley for United but had an otherwise quiet afternoon

Juan Mata 6.5
Neat and tidy from the little Spaniard who was able to take a back seat as his team mates dominated. Close to adding a fourth.

Paul Pogba 6.5
Stunning controlled volley for the opener but quiet in the second half.

Wayne Rooney 8
Looking more like the Rooney of old, albeit against inept opposition. Linked well with Ibrahimovic and will have enjoyed this.


Wayne Rooney rolled back the years to put in a solid shift and silence his critics

Zlatan Ibrahimovic 7.5
Neat finish for his first and strong work for his second. Against a shambles of a defence but will have enjoyed his first Premier League goals after six without scoring.

Subs:

Jesse Lingard (Mata 81) Game lost and won by the time he entered the fray.

Morgan Schneiderlin (Rooney 89)

Tim Fosu-Mensah (Pogba 90+4)

Not used: Sergio Romero, Anthony Martial, Daley Blind, Marcus Rashford,

Manager: Jose Mourinho 7

Referee Neil Swarbrick 6.5

Star Man: Wayne Rooney

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Sama... aku juga kaget dengan susunan timnya. Tapi ya gol 1 dan 2 lebih pada skill individu dibanding skema serangan. Setelah gol 1 dan 2 ya mainnya passing pendek2 lewat tengah.

Ntar lawan Arsenal tinggal Herrera Rashford IN Fellaini Ibra OUT.
bener oum, gol 1 & 2 lebih ke skill individu, gol ketiga berkat kapten yang tadi malah ga overpaid

yang kesel babak kedua malah melonggarkan serangan, padahal bisa tuh masukin rashford dan martial untuk manfaatin speed biar beknya making kocar kacir..

feeling gw sih fellaini tetap akan main lawan arsenal, alasannya untuk mengimbangi lini tengah dengan fisik

dan ngerasa ga ya kalo WCS lebih ramping dan staminanya lebih baik, apakah dia mulai diet sehingga tidak tambun lagi?


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Iya tuh. Di Redcafe banyak yg menduga yg dimaksud adalah Shaw. Kemungkinan ada 2, Shaw atau Martial. Tapi Martial masih ada di bench. Jadi kemungkinan besar yg dimaksud adalah Shaw.
bukannya pas sebelum main kata mou ada 2 orang yang menolak main yaitu smaling dan shaw karena sesuatu hal..
makanya aneh banget ada yng nolak main bukan karena cedera.
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bener oum, gol 1 & 2 lebih ke skill individu, gol ketiga berkat kapten yang tadi malah ga overpaid

yang kesel babak kedua malah melonggarkan serangan, padahal bisa tuh masukin rashford dan martial untuk manfaatin speed biar beknya making kocar kacir..

feeling gw sih fellaini tetap akan main lawan arsenal, alasannya untuk mengimbangi lini tengah dengan fisik
Seperti kata Mou ya, Carrick bertahan, Pogba menyerang dan Fellaini penyeimbang. Mungkin maksudnya Fellaini nggak jelas, nyerang kaga bertahan kagak.

Saya sih cuma khawatir. Gimana kecepatan dan kelincahan pemain Arsenal melawan lambat dan kaku-nya Fellaini. Ntar diasapin mulu dianya.

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dan ngerasa ga ya kalo WCS lebih ramping dan staminanya lebih baik, apakah dia mulai diet sehingga tidak tambun lagi?
Rooney mengawali pertandingan dengan buruk. Seingatku 3 umpan pertamanya nggak tepat sasarn. Bahkan umpan pertamanya adalah ke pemain Swansea pas di depan kotak pinalti United. Untung nggak gol.

Rahasianya mungkin dia dijauhkan dari sisi kanan United. Jadi dia bingung nyari FB kanan. Selama ini kan dia demen banget passing ke FB kanan. Dengan di taruh di kiri dia dipaksa ngumpan ke yang lain.

Tapi menurutku sih penampilan dia masih blom bener2 wah. Passing, crossing, driblingnya masih tetap. Yang membedakan hanya dia lebih agresif aja. Mungkin karena dia ditaruh di kiri ya. Jadi dipaksa lari.

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bukannya pas sebelum main kata mou ada 2 orang yang menolak main yaitu smaling dan shaw karena sesuatu hal..
makanya aneh banget ada yng nolak main bukan karena cedera.
Semoga ini bukan tanda pemberontakan. Shaw sebelumnya diminati Mou di Chelsea tapi memilih ke United. Dia juga pernah bilang tidak ada masalah antara dia dan Mou. Semoga semua baik2 aja.
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Gak nonton pertandingannya, tapi liat di beberapa media, katanya Mou ubah taktik 4-2-3-1 jadi 4-2-2-2 yang bertransformasi jadi 4-3-2-1. Sebuah keputusan yang tepat dan patut diberi apresiasi ane rasa. Mou harus berani jadi dirinya sendiri untuk bisa menangani tim sebesar MU.
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Seperti kata Mou ya, Carrick bertahan, Pogba menyerang dan Fellaini penyeimbang. Mungkin maksudnya Fellaini nggak jelas, nyerang kaga bertahan kagak.

Saya sih cuma khawatir. Gimana kecepatan dan kelincahan pemain Arsenal melawan lambat dan kaku-nya Fellaini. Ntar diasapin mulu dianya.
sama
udah kebayang liat felaini lari ngos-ngosan dan jauh di depannya ada ozil/sanchez/walcot lagi lari-lari kecil

dengan formasi 3 gelandang ini gw lebih merasa aman dan stabil, tinggal felaini aja diganti herera.

untuk 2 AMC bisa ditaro martial dan rashford kalo emang mau ngebut..
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Rooney mengawali pertandingan dengan buruk. Seingatku 3 umpan pertamanya nggak tepat sasarn. Bahkan umpan pertamanya adalah ke pemain Swansea pas di depan kotak pinalti United. Untung nggak gol.

Rahasianya mungkin dia dijauhkan dari sisi kanan United. Jadi dia bingung nyari FB kanan. Selama ini kan dia demen banget passing ke FB kanan. Dengan di taruh di kiri dia dipaksa ngumpan ke yang lain.

Tapi menurutku sih penampilan dia masih blom bener2 wah. Passing, crossing, driblingnya masih tetap. Yang membedakan hanya dia lebih agresif aja. Mungkin karena dia ditaruh di kiri ya. Jadi dipaksa lari.
Nah iya, agresifnya yang lebih kelihatan..udah mulai ngotot lagi..
kalo first touch, umpan, gaya bermain yang selalu ke samping sih belum ada yang berubah

cuma paling ngga udah ada perbaikan di ngototnya, semoga dia semakin diet semakin membaik performanya.

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Semoga ini bukan tanda pemberontakan. Shaw sebelumnya diminati Mou di Chelsea tapi memilih ke United. Dia juga pernah bilang tidak ada masalah antara dia dan Mou. Semoga semua baik2 aja.
ini sih yang aneh, semoga aja karena emg ga FIT. kan kebayang mou kalo udah ga suka ama pemain, bisa ilang tu pemain (ex: casillas dan mik eh ini semoga ngga )
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