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06/11/2014 - ManUtd.com, Paul Davies
Feature: For club and country


Words like ‘heroic’ and ‘brave’ are so widely used in football these days that’s it’s easy to forget their true meaning. Yet there are some Manchester United players, including from the Newton Heath era, for whom the use of those terms is fully deserved.


Here, with the help of United's museum curator Mark Wylie, we pay tribute to the men who played for our football club and then perished in World War I, the conflict which started 100 years ago this year.


Sergeant 11677 Arthur Beadsworth | 7th (Service) Battalion Leicestershire Regiment*|*Manchester United 1902-03
One of many players signed in the first season after the name change to Manchester United, the forward from Leicester made 9 league appearances for the Reds – scoring the winner against Arsenal on his debut. Having previously served in the militia, the territorial army of its day, he joined the Leicestershire regiment but died of wounds in 1917 near Boulogne in France.

Private 34893 Thomas Clifford | 6th/7th (Service) Battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers*|*Newton Heath 1896-97
The Scotsman, from Ayr, played for a number of teams either side of the border and represented the Heathens at reserve level. Mark Wylie, curator for Manchester United's museum, informed us: "Thomas was actually quite old when he joined up so it’s possible he lied about his age. Most of his service was in the UK and he was only abroad for a matter of weeks when he was killed on the Somme." His name is one of the 72,000 listed on the Memorial to the Missing in Thiepval.

Private 2289 Bernard Donaghey | 1st Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers*|*Manchester United 1905-06
An Ireland international who played for the Irish League, Hibernian in Scotland and Burnley but made only three appearances for the Reds. A Catholic serving in the British army, he was a reservist before the war and was in action soon after the outbreak in 1914. He served in Gallipoli and then in France, and was killed on the first day of the Somme. He’s another named on the Thiepval Memorial.

Private 515549 Hugh S. Kerr | 14th (City of London) Battalion (London Scottish) London Regiment*|*Manchester United 1904
This Scottish forward made two Reds appearances after he joined from Ayr, and is the most recently added to the list of players lost in conflict. Mark Wylie: "What confused us was that he was in a London battalion but we then discovered it was the London Scottish. Turns out he became a tailor in London and so we followed the trail and Ayr confirmed he was our player." Kerr died of wounds in a hospital near Boulogne, France.

Private 43594 Harry Levis | 22nd (Service) Battalion (7th City) Manchester Regiment*|*Manchester United 1913-14
Mark Wylie: "We haven’t found any match reports stating he played for us, but he was a reserve player and registered with the club – which justifies his inclusion. The name Harry Levis appears only three times in the 1911 census, two of them from the North West with one of those in Salford. He went missing in action with the Manchester regiment and is commemorated at various churches in the Eccles/Salford area. We’re pretty certain he’s our player and was a war casualty."

Private F/1723 Oscar H.S. Linkson | 17th (Service) Battalion (1st Football) Middlesex Regiment*|*Manchester United 1908-13
The full-back spent five years at the club, making 59 appearances, including seven in the title-winning season of 1910/11. Hailing from Barnet, he enjoyed a couple of good seasons with the Reds but after being hampered by injuries he moved to Ireland to play for Shelbourne. He joined the footballers’ battalion and was killed on the Somme. His name is also on the*Thiepval memorial.

Private 24744 Patrick McGuire | 17th (Service) Battalion (2nd City) Manchester Regiment*|*Manchester United 1910-11
He played for both Manchester clubs: while only representing the reserves for United, he turned out for City’s first team. Although he never really made it at United, McGuire was a well-known player around the Manchester area – representing a number of clubs including Hurst, now Ashton United. He was relatively early to sign up, joining one of the early Pals battalions of the Manchester Regiment. Another to die on the Somme, he is commemorated in Thiepval and also at St Chad’s Church in Cheetham Hill.

Lieutenant Charles N. Newcombe | 7th (Service) Battalion King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry*|*Manchester United 1913-14
The only officer among our players killed in conflict. An amateur with the Reserves, he was educated at a private school in Chesterfield. Mark Wylie: "He had been desperate to join the army at the outbreak of war and applied for commissions to get in as an officer, eventually getting one with the King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was shot by a sniper while serving near Armentieres, France, in 1915."

Private 6041 James Semple | 10th (Service) Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers*|*Manchester United 1908-09
Another Scot, from Perth, he was a baker before he became a footballer and played for a number of non-league clubs in Scotland before joining United in 1908. He never made the first team, however, and returned north of the border. Mark Wylie: "By 1911 he was back down in England living in Liverpool as a baker, which explains why he joined the Lancashire Fusiliers rather than the Black Watch, which is the Perth regiment. He joined that battalion, known as the Bury Pals, and was another lost on the Somme.”

Lance Sergeant 28427 Alexander 'Sandy' Turnbull (pictured) | 8th (Service) Battalion East Surrey Regiment | Manchester United 1906-15
The most famous United player to die in conflict, he won the FA Cup with both Manchester clubs and two league titles with the Reds. A crowd favourite, he signed up to the Middlesex regiment, the Footballers’ Battalion, despite being banned from the game due to the match-fixing scandal of 1915. Little is known of his wartime movements, but he was transferred to the East Surreys due to them needing men and steadily promoted up to the rank of Lance Sergeant. He went into action in Arras and after initially being assumed captured, he was listed as missing and then six months later he was assumed killed. His name is on a memorial in Arras and another one at Gorse Hill, near Old Trafford.

Private 50875 Thomas H. Wall | 2nd/10th Battalion Manchester Regiment*|*Manchester United 1908-10
The younger brother of famous United winger George Wall, Thomas was at the club briefly and played in the same position as his sibling. Although he was regarded as a good Reds prospect, he didn't progress beyond reserve-team level. Mark Wylie: "He died at the battle of Passchendaele in Belgium and is commemorated as one of the missing in the nearby Tyne Cot cemetery."
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07/11/2014 - ManUtd.com, Paul Davies
For club and country - part two


After paying tribute to the Manchester United and Newton Heath players who perished in World War I, part two of our feature salutes the men who played for our club and died in World War II, as well as honouring the first Red who died in armed conflict - in the Boer War.


BOER WAR

Driver 12690 Gilbert Godsmark | Army Service Corps (att. 75th Battery Royal Field Artillery) | Newton Heath 1900

Although he wasn’t a serving soldier when he joined the Heathens, as a former soldier Goldsmith was called up at a time of national emergency just months after joining the club. Regarded as quite a prospect, having been spotted by ex-Heathen Bob Donaldson while playing in Kent, the 25-year-old succumbed to disease while serving in Pretoria.

FIRST WORLD WAR

Gunner 957763 Francis B. Carpenter | 61 (The Denbighshire Yeomanry) Medium Regiment, Royal Artillery | Manchester United 1939-40

This reserve teamer was in the territorial force, a gunner in a medium artillery regiment. He had hardly made any appearances by the time he was being shipped off to France, where he was killed during the retreat to Dunkirk, being listed as missing.

Pilot Officer 117256 George Curless | 625 Squadron, Royal Air Force | Manchester United 1940-44
A graduate of the Manchester United Junior Athletic Club, Curless was not only a young reserve but also part of the ground staff working as a clerk in the offices. From Orrell, he joined the RAF volunteer reserve and underwent pilot training in the United States. He was flying from RAF Kelstern in Lincolnshire when his aircraft disappeared on a bombing raid of the Kiel canal in northern Germany. The squadron war diary recorded ‘no contact’ from his plane; it was his very first mission.

Flying Officer 179037 David H. Fenner | 98 Squadron, Royal Air Force | Manchester United 1944
This Glaswegian was a guest player for the Reds on six occasions – being registered with Airdrieonians then Stenhousemuir in the late 1930s. United's museum curator Mark Wylie explains: “Fenner served in 98 Squadron, which were doing army co-operation sorties after the invasion of Normandy – such as knocking out strong points, bombing tanks and hitting rail heads The squadron’s war diary states his aircraft as last being seen flying into a cloud over Holland but it’s not known what happened after that.”

Pilot Officer 119552 George L. Gosnell |2 Squadron, Royal Air Force | Manchester United 1941-42
Museum curator Mark Wylie: “We’re unclear whether he was an Oldham Athletic player who guested for Manchester United or vice versa, he could even have been somebody else’s player who guested for both. A pilot flying North American Mustangs in army close support and photo reconnaissance, he seems to have crashed his aircraft in the UK and died of his wounds. His grave is in Oldham.”

Corporal 3660044 Hubert Redwood | South Lancashire Regiment | Manchester United 1933-43
He was a first-teamer in the 1930s, a highly regarded full-back, and but for the war he may very well have gained Football League representation and even represented England. From St Helens, he was serving in the forces when he caught tuberculosis, was discharged from the army and later died. He has a war grave, in his home town, due to his army service resulting in his early demise.

Walter Spratt | Civilian | Manchester United 1915-20
Spratt represented the Reds during the First World War, having joined from Brentford in early 1915 and played only once after the conflict. By the Second World War he was living in London and working in Southwark, and was among 35 people killed by a V2 rocket. Mark Wylie: "We have included him here because he lost his life due to enemy action."

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These Manchester United players gave their lives in conflict. We will remember them.

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Respect for our player..
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UNITED PAY TRIBUTE ON SOMME ANNIVERSARY



On the 100th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme, Manchester United has joined the tributes to those who lost their lives during World War I.

More than a million men were wounded or killed at the Somme in the largest battle of World War I on the Western Front. One of the former United players who died in the conflict in 1916, Oscar Linkson, was recently remembered by his great-great-granddaughter Mollie and her history class at Tolworth Girls' School in Surbiton, London. Mollie [pictured] and her class-mates visited the Somme area in northern France and laid a wreath provided by the club at the Footballers' Memorial at Longueval.

"I’m happy to say that Mollie successfully laid the wreath on behalf of Manchester United," said history teacher David Flood. "She was absolutely overwhelmed by the occasion, and it was a truly touching event. We held a short ceremony and had a minute's silence for all those who died serving with the Footballers' Battalions."

A city centre parade and service is being held in Manchester today (Friday) from 14:00 BST before an evening of remembrance at Heaton Park to mark the 100-year anniversary.

Former United players lost in World War I:

Arthur Beadsworth
Was a player with Manchester United from October 1902 to the end of May 1903 (12 apps, 3 goals). Served in the 7th Battalion Leicestershire Regiment as a Sergeant. Gassed on October 9 1917 and died later that day. Buried at Wimereux Communal Cemetery, France.

Bernard Donaghy
Was a player for Manchester United from November 1905 to August 1906 (3 apps). Served in the 1st Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers as a Private. Missing in action, presumed killed, 1 July 1916 at the Somme. Commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.

Arthur Hooper
Was a player with Manchester United from October 1909 to June 1914 (7 apps, 1 goal). Served in the 8th Battalion The King’s Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment) as a Private. Died of wounds 4 April 1916. Buried at Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery, Belgium.

Oscar H.S. Linkson
Represented Manchester United from July 1908 to August 1913 (59 apps). Served in the 17th Battalion Middlesex Regiment as a Private. Missing in Action, presumed killed, on 8 August 1916 at the Somme. Commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.

Alexander ‘Sandy’ Turnbull
Was a player with Manchester United from 1907 to 1915 (247 apps, 101 goals), volunteered circa December 1915. Served in 8th Battalion East Surrey Regiment as a Lance Sergeant. Missing in action, presumed killed at Arras on 3 May 1917. Commemorated on the Arras Memorial.

Thomas H. Wall
Was a Reserve-team player with Manchester United from May 1908 to circa May 1910 (0 first-team apps). Served in the 2nd / 10th Battalion Manchester Regiment as a Private. Missing in action, presumed killed, 9 October 1917 in the Ypres Salient. Commemorated on the Tyne Cot Memorial.

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